Discussion in 'Lucasfilm Ltd. In-Depth Discussion' started by Latorski, Sep 1, 2004.
None of them.
I love American Graffitti, it's a masterpiece, and the sequel is a good one too, if you are a fan of the first! Star Wars got robbed, it was the most revolutionary movie in history and the impact it had on the world when it came out!
The one that gets me the most is Star Wars losing to Annie Hall.
I mean, if you compare the people who remember Annie Hall to the people who remember Star Wars, Star Wars totally pwns.
The Academy hates Lucas and Star Wars, yet loves Peter Jackson and LOTR. Yet Peter Jackson often proclaims that SW was his biggest influence and he could've never made LOTR without the help of SW.
I feel that ANH got robbed. At the time that movie came out no one had ever seen anything like it. Watch other movies from around the time ANH came out, the quality is much worse, the effects are jokes, Star Wars really put a new page in movie-making. Best picture though... I dunno
. Yet Peter Jackson often proclaims that SW was his biggest influence and he could've never made LOTR without the help of SW.
Actually, it was King Kong that was his biggest influence, but still, I'm sure Star Wars is somewhere around that area also.
Let's look at some of the films that have been nominated for Best Picture and lost:
It's A Wonderful Life
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre
Raiders of the Lost Ark
Now, let's look at films that won best picture and are remembered to this day:
The Godfather (1 and 2)
I believe Star Wars did get robbed as did Raiders, but let's face it, some of the best movies ever never won best picture.
IMO, I think that technical Oscars do count, and our great achievments, but I believe that Star Wars and Raiders should have swept the Oscars.
Star Wars and Raiders. I mean... Annie Hall???
I don't have a problem with Annie Hall winning Best Picture over ANH, but I think Lucas should have won the Best Director Award that year. I mean you can debate which is a better movie, but what Lucas did as director of that was never seen before.
Also, How come ESB wasn't nominated for Best Picture in 1980. I know that was the year of Raging Bull & Ordinary People, but ESB was a great movie.
I was too young in 1980, but was it because they didn't like that Lucas had another mega-hit? Was it because it was a sequel? Or did it just get overlooked? Anyone remember? Thanks
I was also too young in 1980, but I believe ESB's reputation has grown over the years. I think it was well liked in 1980 and the ending shocked everyone, but it was not considered the "masterpiece" it is today.
None of Lucas's films REALLY deserve anything but technical awards.
First off "ANH" was never nominated (two poster said it was robbed), Star Wars was.
Star Wars is my favorite Lucas film, but Annie Hall is by far Woody Allen's best film. Who is more beloved between Lucas and Allen? Depends who you hang out with and when you as the question. They are two of the most important directors of the 1970s, and both deserve for their contributions, too bad they both came out in '77. SW is the best Sci-Fi/adventure film of all time, true; but Annie Hall is the only good romantic comedy in the history of cinema. Annie Hall is a great film, even if you don't like what Woody Allen became (gee, you could make a similar argument about Star Wars and Lucas), but this is a SW fan site not a WA one, so obviously the sympathy for Star Wars.
Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark
Star Wars and Raiders, but I have yet to see Annie Hall and Chariots of Fire.
Star Wars and Raiders....
I always felt Empire Strikes Back got the biggest snub job of all. It wasn't even nominated.
Star Wars definitely.
Does anyone even remember Annie Hall? Or Woody Allen for that matter.
25 plus years later Star Wars is still making it's mark on the industry. Can Woody Allen or Annie Hall say the same thing?
Yes, lots of people do remember Woody Allen. Some of us are eagerly awaiting the release of Match Point.
Star Wars should've won Best Picture. 'Nuff said. Raiders of the Lost Ark--don't bring that up with me unless you want me to get intense. The big one that stands out for me is the fact that Chariots of Fire beat out Raiders in the Best Score category. COME ON!!! Seriously!!! I voted Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark.
the most obvious choice on the poll is Star Wars. the mistake is obvious because of how much Star Wars resonated with people nearly 30 years after the fact and Annie Hall is only remembered of fondly in the foggy halls of old school hollywood.
i saw The Sting and i'd say its a pretty good film to go up against American Graffiti. in fact they're actually on equal footing so TS winning isnt as blatantly political as when Annie Hall won.
about Raiders losing to Chariots on Best Score= well dude, you gotta admit, Chariots of Fire has got a pretty memorable track. heck just play the first 6 notes and right away you know its from that film.
I said Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark. Both movies are original and spectacular to see. While the films that won are good in their own right, Star Wars and Raiders of the Lost Ark deserved to win, too.
all of them..have u ever noticed that the academy will never give a lucasfilm a best picture award..that sucks to say the least lucas is a awesome filmaker and a master storyteller
I agree, whole heartedly. Steven Spielberg should have won Best Director for that movie. The Indy trilogy in general and Raiders in particular is classic Spielberg and one hell of popcorn movie.