Lit Which Star Wars book series is better? Legacy or Fate of the Jedi?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by JediMasterKeno, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. JackG Force Ghost

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    I couldn't get through the DNT; they all meshed together in my mind of some crazy bugs and weird characterisation. The only other book I couldn't get through like this trilogy was The New Rebellion.
  2. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    I think LOTF is much more enjoyable than FOTJ. While I really like some of the new characters in FOTJ (Read: Vestara, love her) I think LOTF is much more profound in how it deals with previous characters.
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  3. Zer0 Jedi Grand Master

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    I found neither of them enjoyable, but that's just me.
  4. DarkEagle Jedi Grand Master

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    Ehh, check them out from the library first (or the first 1 or 2 of each just so you know what you're getting into).

    That said, they both have their ups and downs (mostly, imo, wasted opportunities and inconsistent side-plots) so I'm not sure I'd say one is better than the other. I kind of enjoyed them both, but each person has differing opinions on each series, as evident in this thread. So, yeah I'd advise not buying until you're sure you'll read the entirety of the series.
  5. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    If you hate Tempest and Inferno I highly doubt that you'll like DNT.
  6. CT-867-5309 Force Ghost

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    I liked DNT because I'm a big Alema fan, and I actually like Denning's weird stuff.

    What kept getting on my nerves were the very obvious and deliberate attempts to discredit much of the NJO, it starts very early in the first book. I kept finding myself saying "I know what you're doing and I don't like it".
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  7. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    I've gone back and forth on liking and hating the Killiks. I hated Raynar and Alema in DNT but liked them in FOTJ and LOTF respectively. I nearly had freaked out when I saw the preview for Tempest and saw Alema was back. I grew to like her by the end of the book though.
  8. darthjulian777 Jedi Grand Master

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    I like the killiks now that they have connection an event that comes from outside of the core star wars timeline. The celestials are quite an interesting idea.
  9. Force Smuggler Chosen One

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    I wasn't as bothered by them in Apocalypse myself
  10. Zorrixor Chosen One

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    Out of the three series, I actually enjoyed DN the most, LOTF probably comes second, with FOTJ having been better than LOTF for the first few books, but then it just seemed to fall into circular plotlines that made a lot of FOTJ just seem repetitive and filler. I enjoyed Abeloth as a concept, but just think less would have been more in her case, as having the Rebels defeat Thrawn multiple times isn't how you build a strong villain.
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  11. Manisphere Force Ghost

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    They're both so terrible. So awful. But if I had to answer I'd say that if you have zero attachment to Jacen Solo or any events of The NJO, you might like LOTF more than FOTJ. As terrible goes, LOTF is more devastating but FOTJ isn't even that. It's just terrible.
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  12. Team Padme Force Ghost

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    The whole war with Corellia in LOTF was stupid and honestly, confused me. It should've just focused on Jacen becoming a Sith
  13. Manisphere Force Ghost

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    It never made any sense to me at all why or how Coruscant and Corellia could possibly get into an ideological war after something like the YV war. The series for the most part acts as though the YV war never happened. It was stupid before Jacen fell.
  14. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    LOTF was written about 1,000 times better. If it wasn't for "Sacrifice", "Revelation" and especially "Invincible" this series would have been very high quality.
  15. Ghost Chosen One

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    Invincible was a good, well-written book. It just wasn't a good conclusion.

    Sacrifice wasn't that bad either, if you subtract the Fett/Mandalore parts, and forget about the continuity errors (like Coruscant's moons).
  16. LawgSkrak Force Ghost

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    Personally, I don't understand why people hate these two series so much. Fate of the Jedi, especially I thought was great, what with so many characters and places from past EU being revisited. Just a fun time all around.

    I think too many people take this stuff too seriously. I'm not seeing all the bad characterisation etc etc, that so many moan about.
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  17. DarthApprentice Jedi Grand Master

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    For me, I liked FotJ better, and it really had to do with Beyond Shadows. Abyss was the first book I re-read, literally, 8 times before I moved on to another book.
  18. Team Padme Force Ghost

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    Abyss was that good?

    And I loved Sacrifice. Mara-Jade was amazing in that book. Sucks she's gone.
  19. DarthApprentice Jedi Grand Master

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    I thought it was. Many did not like the series as a whole, but this book for me was great. Once I got to the latter half of the book, I could not put it down.

    And I agree about Mara in Sacrifice. And dont get me wrong, I liked LotF too, just not as much as FotJ, mostly because of Abyss.
  20. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    I did not feel that sacrifice was written well, and i have a huge problem with Mara dying. I also have an issue with the fact that Jacen did not even make a real sacrifice. I think Del Rey was afraid to kill Allana, so they made something up about sacrificing Ben's love for Jacen.
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  21. Nobody145 Force Ghost

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    Basically don't waste your money on either of these series, if you want a Star Wars novel series go with NJO or even DNT or go read some of the individual novels. DNT had plenty of the same problems as LotF and FotJ, but at least there it was only stretched out for three books, instead of being dragged out for nine books which just made things much, much worse.

    LotF had a few more relative high points, but those don't make up for the many incredibly stupid moments. Well, it also helped that up until the end of LotF, there was possibly some hope, but then Invincible's ending is just... really, really, really stupid and illogical. After that, and seeing how bad their idea of a conclusion is, I was a lot less patient with FotJ, and it doesn't help that FotJ sort of retcons parts of LotF, invalidating those ideas. FotJ had a few less idiotic moments, but also fewer good moments (Abyss was slightly decent, but it just got worse after that). There was better continuity between the FotJ writers than during LotF. Maybe because they had learned some lessons from LotF (not like they improved their idea of a plot, which is really sad as Allston and Denning wrote better SW books in the past), or those three writers' styles fit together better, who knows. Also because less happened in FotJ. While LotF had plenty of pet characters and pet plotlines, many of which were neglected in other authors' books (partially because those plots and characters were unimportant to the main plot, partially because of lack of coordination maybe), at least stuff happened in each book. FotJ had several sub-plots dragged out over six, seven books with little changing between the first and last books, instead of just being ignored in other authors' books.

    If you have to waste money on one, I'd say LotF is slightly better, relatively speaking. LotF had more worse spots, but it was better planned at least. FotJ's plot was almost literally a work in progress for a good deal of the time. There were... certain complications with the authors, but still, its worrisome when they start out on a nine book series and even by the halfway point are still changing things with the main plot. Not just learning from earlier mistakes, but throwing in new stuff... which means the original plot was incomplete or really minimal. Well, there was plenty of empty space since the main plot barely moved along in most books. And when stuff did start happening rapidly, it was really strange and illogical and still felt repetitive, especially after LotF.

    Probably better to just read summaries on Wookieepedia or go read something better (the KotOR comic is recommended, as is the Legacy comic series, which is a completely different story and also the title Legacy is more appropriate for it than LotF and FotJ were).
  22. Rew Force Ghost

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    (I'm assuming the OP is referring to the Legacy of the Force novels, and not Legacy comics?)

    Anyway, it depends on what you intend to do with these books. If you're intending to build a bonfire or need some spare toilet tissue, I say you should collect all of both series. If you're after some engaging reading, I'd say skip both of these stories entirely and do yourself a favor by reading The New Jedi Order novels, then move on to the Legacy comics for your post-NJO fix.
  23. JediMatteus Force Ghost

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    Hmnn. I understand if people feel this way, But i think the novels are still a critical read from both series. But the NJO series was awesome. It is 19 whole books, which will take you awhile, but it's worth it.
  24. Danzo Jedi Grand Master

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    For me whilst I really enjoyed Abyss, Backlash was my major love of the series. It had it's faults but it was by far and large my favourite entry in the series.
  25. Zeta1127 Force Ghost

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    I don't like the direction LotF and FotJ took the universe, too many of my favorite characters were killed and/or ruined to even consider reading either series. I wanted Bantam style smaller conflicts on the backdrop of the recovery from the Yuuzhan Vong War, not something that has too many parallels with the PT.
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