CT Which version of ANH is the true and only?

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  1. sith_rhino Jedi Grand Master

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    I guess I'd go with the 1978 version. I did see the original theatrical release but was only 8 at the time, and like the OP mentions, it was never seen again. I like the Blu-Ray version too. I wish they didn't have Greedo shoot, it's just silly, but otherwise, it looks great.
  2. Star Wars 1977 Only Jedi Padawan

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  4. Club Obi-Wan Jedi Padawan

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    What are the differences in the May 25, 1977 premiere cut, wider 1977 release, 1978 re-release, and 1981 re-release version?
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  5. DARTH_BELO Force Ghost

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    I definitely agree that this is a very personal choice, and each person will like a different one better...

    For me personally, it would be the Blu-ray version. looking beyond the Enhancements, new scenes and changes and whatnot (Which I actually enjoy) just from the Standpoint of the new sound mix and breathtaking picture quality. I have never seen this movie looks so good, nor have I even imagined that it could look and sound that good!

    All of these improvements as a whole basically changed the way I view ANH as part of the saga. IMO it makes it blend in much better visually, audibly And effects-wise with the rest of the episodes, Instead of standing out like a sore thumb like it did before.
  6. Ganger Chosen One

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    Probably the 1978 version, because of the Episode IV title. As a kid I loved the possibilities and mystique the episodes IV-V-VI gave to Star Wars. It was a crazy way of getting you hooked, I had a lot of fun with it. I even remember that a friend told me that a cousin of his had the books of Episodes I-II-III and since there was no Internet and not that much production info going around, I totally bought into it for months.

    All those hints to the past were really interesting, the way Owen looks at Beru when Luke mentions his father, the clone wars, Leia's mother, the Emperor, etc. I would invent millions of little theories.

    Well then the prequels came out. Woop dee friggin' doo. No comments.

    Now the later versions are made to tie with these movies. There's the special edition that features Coruscant, later the dvds that included Naboo at the end, the blurays, where Lucas thought it was necessary to add the howl of Obi Wan's cgi dinosaur, the "Nooooooo" scream and so on.

    Given the personal context in wchich I genuienly marveled at the movies, I would go with their original releases and for the case of ANH alone (to get back in topic), the 1978 version gave me hours of imagination and fun.
  7. TOSCHESTATION Force Ghost

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    Minutiae-alert:

    The 'Episode IV A New Hope' title was first shown on-screen with the 1981 re-release.
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  8. darthfettus2015 Jedi Grand Master

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    never understood the angst about the Greedo/Han thing at all! I love the Biggs scene as it ties into a movie that was left on the cutting room floor that we only ever saw in those lost deleted scenes, so tho i love the original movie version 77 (was Xmas release here in UK). By the way was it my five year old imagination or was there during the lightsabre duel a part where the scene went black only illuminated by the sabres? i may have just imagined it......
  9. Ganger Chosen One

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    Thanks for the correction
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    You're welcome.
  11. tulwinn Jedi Master

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    For me, Id probably say he theatrical cut but I do like the addition of Biggs.

    I always remember watching it and wondering why Luke was so cut up by Bigg's death and why the music made him sound like a special loss. With the addition of the meeting scene it added a lot more emotion to his death.
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  12. TX-20 Force Ghost

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    While I do like some of the changes (Mos Eisley now looks like a Spaceport) I prefer any version that is before the special edition.
  13. Ganger Chosen One

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    It looks like a video game spaceport to me
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  14. Grand_Moff_Jawa Chosen One

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    Why is it logical? This is obviously a question of preference. There's no logic involved here.

    I'd love to see the 1977 version again. I was there, but don't remember it very well because of all the changes to it since then.
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  15. DarthBoba Manager Emeritus

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    1976 novel based on the original shooting script. How dare they de-jewel Luke's lightsabre, only mention one Sith Lord, change Blue to Red Squadron, let Ponda Baba live, and drop the pivotal scene where Red Leader tells Luke about his father :p
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  16. TOSCHESTATION Force Ghost

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    [face_shame_on_you]:-B:p;)
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  17. darthfettus2015 Jedi Grand Master

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    id love to have seen the scene with camie (koo stark) - maybe in ep7 will have a group of youngsters in a hang out watching a battle in the sky....
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  18. Ingram_I Jedi Grand Master

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    If the question was obviously one of preference then it would have read "which is the best?" or "which is your personal favorite?" But asking for which version of A New Hope is the true version – the truest, the truth – implies some degree of objective standards beyond one’s personal taste, or at least a subjective view that, in part, is nonetheless ideologically predicated on facts, reason or reality.

    A New Hope didn’t just one day magically appear or fall from the sky. It is a creation, a product of authorship; that creative authority being George Lucas. Therefore, whichever version of the film most accurately represents Lucas’ intentions, his fullest expression of the setting, story and characters by whatever cinematic means, logically, is the true version. When I call this the "logical answer", I mean just that, only that. I’m not arguing that you or anyone else must then accept the Blu-ray version of the film as your personal favorite.
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  19. Grand_Moff_Jawa Chosen One

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    Then the "true" version must be the 1st version we got. The one from 1977. Using your logic, of course. Lucas changes his mind like he changes his underwear. I take very little of what his "vision" is seriously.
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  20. RogueZero Jedi Grand Master

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    1977 ideally.

    For me, what I grew up with: the VHS version complete with Episode IV: A New Hope on the opening crawl. I was born in 1979 so that's the one I know.
    The older I get, the more I don't care for the Special Editions or the PT. Not that I ever liked the PT that much to begin with...
  21. Ingram_I Jedi Grand Master

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    Uh, actually, no. In fact, that’s pretty much the opposite of my argument. Read it again.
    Interesting. I'm not really sure why you're here, be that the case. But...interesting.
  22. Grand_Moff_Jawa Chosen One

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    Why am I here? Well, it's because I'm a fan of Star Wars. I've been here since 2001, in fact. So I read your response wrong. Regardless, my point is the true vision must have been the one we were given first. Why else would George have released it? All this later-day backtracking about his vision not being realized is silly, in my opinion. Star Wars 1977 is the version that put Star Wars on the map. And a lot of purist fans would say the Blu-Ray version is a disgrace to the original. So, even though you disagree, there is a bit of preference involved. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking George made some of the OT changes just to change it. Pushing the technology again. Jedi Rocks? Really?
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  23. Darth Eddie Jedi Grand Master

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    All versions are equally true, as they are all the same film. At some point, we the fandom must realize that the differences between the versions are granular, ephemeral, and do not ultimately alter the meaning of the story. All this edition-related sound and fury signifies nothing.
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  24. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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  25. darthfettus2015 Jedi Grand Master

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    this version is what i took my 7 year old nephew to see, fresh eyes do a lot to add perspective.....
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