Amph Who can beat Superman?

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  1. Panther50 Jedi Youngling

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    That's if he deems killing a child the only way to stop Superman. Superman is also intelligent as well and invulnerable. The good doctor is a mere human against Superman.

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    I wouldn't rule the good Doctor out to soon. He doesn't have to kill Superman to beat him. He could probably whip up some sort of machine and banish him to another Dimension.
  2. Obi Wan Bergkamp Jedi Master

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    Exactly what I had in mind. The points have been made earlier in the thread that Superman's powers have altered somewhat {pre and post crisis for example}. The Doctor wouldn't have to kill a child, just take out Superman at the most vunerable point.

    Alternatively, if The Doctor has preset the TARDIS to a point away from yellow solar energy all he would have to do is lure Superman into it. The TARDIS' State Of Grace circuitry would prevent Superman injuring The Doctor. Once Superman's batteries have run down he woud simply have to open the Eye of Harmony and seal Superman inside.

    OK, if Superman was to surprise The Doctor by suddenly attacking him, then he would probably win, but in any sort of 'One of you must defeat the other' scenario, then it would be The Doctor every time.


    Assuming he can catch them. Yes Superman is faster than a speeding bullet, but can he do Warp 8?


  3. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    He can nail them before they can go to warp 8.
  4. Darth Aiser Jedi Master

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    If memerory servces right the enterprise has shields, armour. He may be able to fight through the armor and I don't know how he would react to the shields. Anyway if any one wanted to biuld some thing out of Kryptoninte just look for the remains of the planet it would be an astroid belt. When all planets blow up they always leave a belt may not be in same location but its out there a big belt probaly several million tons of Kyptonite. Its only rare in areas away from the origanal blast point. so if you could incapacte him with a small chunk you know he falls unconsious then sedate him with pills. But him a ship find an decent sized astroid to which was in his own planet's astroid belt build the tomb but him in close it then but it on a course for the nearest red star. And kill all of his friends family everyone who cared about him.

    Now on after though why would any "good guy " wish to kill him or at least nuetralize him I haven't a clue. And he can die of old age. He ages like a human. If your time traveling person go to his grave and Dance, take a leak or what ever and he can't do you no harm.[face_cow]
  5. Soontir-Fel Jedi Master

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    Grant Morrison and Superman one million would argue with you about that.
  6. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    As to sheilds, all he'd have to do is give it a king size punch. The same way that Gladiator did in "Star Trek/X-Men". So long as the sheilds aren't magic, Superman can break through at super speed. As to Krypton, that's true. But they have to know that he is weak against Kryptonite in the first place.
  7. VadersLaMent Chosen One

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    Just what version of Superman are we talking about here? Pre-Crisis? Post-Crisis? John Burn? pre-Pre-Crisis? Superman Returns? Uber at everything you want so Superman always wins? Is there no ground rule here?
  8. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    No, I'm just pointing out that Superman can do a lot of stuff. And that the Federation ships are known for having sheilds that don't last too long from repeated barrages.
  9. Master_Jedi80 Jedi Youngling

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  10. Raven Administrator Emeritus

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    On a related note, Equus was the villain for the Lee run on Superman, and he gave Superman a good run for his money. And Karate Kid wiped the floor with him.
  11. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    The GL Corps could take him down...Batman...anyone under a red sun or around alot of Kryptonite could beat the man of steal
  12. Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus

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    That's pretty much like saying "If Bruce Lee had his limbs cut off I could totally have taken him."
  13. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    Well you go that route I say Doomsday could take him with little problems
  14. Master_Starwalker Manager Emeritus

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    Well yeah. I mean, he did. Admittedly they both died, but still.
  15. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Doomsday won once. After that, Superman beat him everytime.
  16. Soontir-Fel Jedi Master

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    There are 7200 Green Lanterns.

    They can take anyone on.
  17. MarcusP2 Games and Community Reaper

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    Which is quite bizarre, since Doomsday should've evolved beyond being hurt by Superman's blows.
  18. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    In his first encounter after their mutual resurrection, Clark got beat fighting toe to toe again. He won thanks to Linear Men technology which took him to the end of time, something he couldn't survive. Clark uses brains and not brawn to win. Clark uses brains again, this time to separate Brainiac from Doomsday, who brought him back from the end of time and then trap him in the JLA transporter. We know that Imperiex killed Doomsday and quite easily at that. It was Jeph Loeb who came up with Superman no longer being afraid of Doomsday and thus being strong enough to beat him down. But then, Loeb's been known for doing these things in his stories. There's not a real conclusive fight during "In The Name Of Gog". We do see the two Kals beat Doomsday in a matter of moments, with Kal-L being strong enough to batter him down.

    Dan Jurgens was consistant, Jeph Loeb not so much.
  19. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    Yeah but if he does evolve enough he will be able to take sups down...also what about another Kryptonian? And here's a question how many of you think sups should be immune to his Kryptonite weakness after all he's been exposed to it more times then I can count now.
  20. Lord_NoONE Jedi Master

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    I don't think you can develop an immunity to a form of radiation...which I understand to be the case for Kal-el and Kryptonite.
  21. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    Actually I belive you can build up an immunity to nearly anything as long as you give your body a chance to do it...not to mention it's a comic/fictional character who gets his power from Solar Radiation So I'd think he might be able to do just that.
  22. Lord_NoONE Jedi Master

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    Maybe you're right. I don't know enough about the Superman-verse. I just thought that since Kryptonite is radioactive to Kryptonians but harmless to humans, that Kal would never be able to become immune to its effects. Perhaps, darth-sinister can clear this up...at least for me.
  23. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    Well Kryptonite is harmful to humans it actually can cause cancer with prolong exposure...Other effects have also been seen one such was the Kryptoniteman.
  24. darth-sinister Manager Emeritus

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    Pre-Crisis, a story was done where Superboy/Kal-El built up an immunity to Green Kryptonite, but that didn't last and he was affected once again. In "Kingdom Come", Lex claims that Superman is now immune to Kryptonite. Though that's an Elseworlds which has now become Earth-22. When the original multiverse existed, Kryptonians were immune to the Kryptonite of another Earth. Power Girl isn't because she has merged into the merged Earth and can be affected. Currently Green Kryptonite affects him, but it doesn't cripple him as quickly as before. Unless he is blasted by it constantly in an energy form or shot with Kryptonite bullets. Exposure to yellow and possibly blue solar energy, will fight against Kryptonite. According to Action Comics Annual #10, Lex stated that Green Kryptonite causes the yellow solar energy in his body to be expelled as the radiation sits within his body. Exposure to yellow solar energy once the Kryptonite is no longer near him, will return him to good health.

    Green Kryptonite as a solid can make people sick over time. If one is blasted by Green Kryptonite directly in an energy form, they'll suffer radiation burns. Prolonged exposure can kill them just as normal radiation does to humans. And yes, the Kryptonite Man and Conduit were both examples of humans infected with Kryptonite and both became so much more. Both were metahumans who when exposed to a sufficent amount, could expell it from their bodies. The Kryptonite became a being of pure Green Kryptonite. Conduit became a guy who with some powerful technology, could channel it out of his body while looking largely normal.

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    Red, Gold and Blue have not been tested on humans.
  25. Darth_Sabith Jedi Padawan

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    Nicely stated just fyi I'm currently tring to create my own Kryptonian characters and have a story going on about them so question since you are a superman expert was there ever a time when a large Metor from Krypton almost crashed into the earth and also what are the normal effects of Black and Red K. On kryptonians.
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