P.Rico Who do you think is going to KILL Tyraus?

yo creo que Anakin sera el que mate a Tyranus a ordenes de Supreme Chancelosr Palpatine que a la vez va lavandole el cerebro al pobre muchacho.... con lo de yo te puedo hacer mas fuerte y ese tipo de cosa tratando asi de ir convirtiendolo al dark side!

que creen uds?

 

Pues concuerdo contigo aunque me tiro al charcoi y digo que sera Darth Vader. Porque? Pues porque Palpatine tratara de seguir la regla de One Master, One Apprentice impuesta por Bane y hara un enfrentamiento entre ambos. El que gane sera su apprentice.

O sino habra un carbon copy de Jedi. Donde Palpatine le dira a Anakin: "Strike him down and take Dooku's place as my side."

 

Mi teoria es que para seguir el paralelismo, habra un duelo entre anakin y dooku frente a palpy a la ROTJ.

But this time anakin does strike him down.


*Have to remind self to add all these new cool threads to index*

 

eso mismo pense yo.....

 

Looks like we have the same point of view ya'll.

 

Pense de primera instancia en esa teoria y estoy bastante de acuerdo. PERO, otra posibilidad es Yoda.
It's the classic master vs. apprentice theme.
Ademas de que hay una linea de Dooku que puede revelar algo depende el punto de vista con el que la leas. Justo luego que tira la columna encima de Obi y Anakin, le dice a Yoda: "This is only the beginning" o algo asi. Claro que sale huyendo como una "who#$#". Quizas sabia que no podria contra Yoda.
Ademas, lei en un sitio que Yoda's saber tiene que ver con Dooku's death. Sin embargo... ES DEMASIADO TEMPRANO PARA SPOILER MATERIAL, asi que creo que esta ultima se la sacaron de la manga. O who know, maybe anakin somehow finishes with Yoda's saber por alguna razon.

 

That's interesting Rafa. Very interesting.

 

Esta interesante la teoria de Yoda que trae Rafa. Pero si fuera a apostar creo que va a ser Anakin en el duelo contra Dooku frente a Palpy. Eso suena un poco mas probable, I think...

Y cuando gane Anakin ya me imagino la voz de Palpy: "Good... good..."

 

Anakin tiene que hacer pagar a Dooku por su brazo....

<sound Lightsaber>

Anakin: Muere Dooku , esto es por mi brazo <ahí le corta un brazo>, y esto por que me da' la gana <ahí le corta otro brazo>

Obi-Wan: ¡Anakin! ¡Anakin! Stoooooop...

Anakin:Que te pasa! no vez que estoy trabajando

Obi-Wan: Me toca a mi....

ok .....no opinen sobre este post, ignorenme estoy aburrido...

 

The EDITOR!

 

Everyone knows Jar Jar is going to kill Tyranus and take his place next to Palpatine~

His name is Darth Binks!

 

Mi esperanza es que si le toca a Yoda bregar con "la situación" no lo pongan a brincar y volar como una mosca de Snapple.

Lo digo muy humildemente

 

Rafa tienes buen punto ... es cierto que lo de Dooko y Yoda se quedo en el aire ... buena teoria esa


Darth Binks... Funny but then again ....hmmm

 

Mosca de Snapple????????????

Anakin deberia eliminar a Dooku , tentado por Palpatine y como proceso de volverse al lado oscuro.Pero como se trata de GL, uno nunca sabe.

MOSCA DE SANAPPLE???????

 

Mosca de Snapple = a un comercial local de Snapple donde una mosca entra a un establecimiento y el que atiende el counter trata de aplastarla...
Alguna vez han tratado de agarrar una mosca?...vuelan de aquí pa' llá...se paran un momento allí y luego allá...así, pues, como Yoda con Dooku...

Clear your vision and look with objectivity and a critical eye and you will see my point.

Lo siento pero debió de pelear mas lento. Se sentía EXTREME CGI. No había "gravedad" as in gravity that pulls us down because of our weight.

No había elasticidad...como cuando usamos nuestros músculos para brincar.

Cambiabas el modelo 3D de Yoda por un X-wing y se moverían igual...no había gracia, kinética orgánica, no se veía nada real.

 

Se cual es el anuncio, estaba ciendo sarcastico con la pregunta.

Yo pienso que estas exajerando demaciado.
Porque se te hace tan dificil pensar que "MASTER" Yoda utilizo su mejor y poderoso aliado, la fuerza, para poder moverse de esa manera

Se movio rapido, no creo que puedas sacar concluciones de elasticidad o gravedad o movimiento de los musculos hasta que tengas AOTC en tu casa y puedas obsevar la secuencia con detenimiento.

 

Estoy de acuerdo. Hay que recordar que Yoda estaba usando la Fuerza para brincar, no sus propios musculos. No hay gravedad que valga, como demonstro cuando subio el X-Wing de Luke en ESB. Es como cuando los Jedis saltan de sitios super altos y no se matan. Usan la Fuerza para aguantarse.

 

Ktulu-Terumo made a good point

Master Yoda is using the force, there's no possible way he can act on his own doing those acrobats, HE'S MORE THAN 800 YEARS OLD.

And he did say in ESB "for the force is my ally, and a powerfull ally it is"

If you see the duel with Dooku from that point of view, Yoda Is using the force to fight, those acrobats and speed are possible.

 

Sobre que Anakin mate a Tyranus entonces me pregunto si va a realmente ver un duel entre Anakin y Obi-Wan? En ANH, vemos que Vader admite "Now I am the master", y le tiene un rencor a Obi-Wan (from a certain point of view), pero si entonces Anakin mata a Tyranus, existe un duel entre Obi-Wan y Anakin también? Creo que es extremadamente muy temprano para sacar conclusiones. Lo dejo abierto a discusión.

 

Mi teoria, siguiendo el paralelismo entre OT y PT. . .hay un duelo final de entre Dooku y Anakin frente a Palpy. Anakin le gana a Dooku, pero al contrario de Luke, se entrega a su odio y mata Dooku, uniendose a el lado obscuro finalmente.

Luego, Ben viendo que Anakin se ha convertido al lado obscuro, lo confronta y hay el duelo final de EIII entre los dos.

Eso estaria cool!

 

All points taken...Still, it looks silly.

 

Cochramundi: What specifically is silly in your opinion?

 

En ingles or in spanish?

OK, Everything is fine up to the point when Yoda lights up the lightsaber. As a matter of fact, it was extremely exciting to see Yoda with an I'm going to kick your behind now expression.
Then he jumps into battle and starts spinning amazingly fast, so fast that you could almost (you meaning us, the audience) barely could see his movements. When you do animation, any animation you have something called "keyframes". When you deal with the computer what you do is you set up "points" in the scene where an object is going to move. For example, Yoda is in front of Dooku facing him, next keyframe in time is when he does the (darth maul spin) and lands on his side...point "A" to point "B" then from there he jumps to the side of the ship, point "B" to point "C" and so forth. Then you have "in betweens" that are the "path" frames from point to point.
All this bs is to illustrate the following point:

We may look for an "excuse" of how "the force and all that " makes Yoda defy nature and gravity, etc. The FX people accomplished this very nicely when Yoda holds up the stones above his head when Dooku tries to smash him down with stuff from the cave. But, his movements in the fight were so fast that 1, we barely see what he is doing, 2, DOES NOT SUSPPEND OUR DESBELEIF (at least mine) and 3, even makes de scene too short for us to enjoy more of it.

And, he didnot need to do all that that fast because Dooku was slow ANYWAY....there was NO MOTIVATION for the speed.

My conclussion, ILM over did it, I hope they fix it, it looks fake, it realy disapointed me, specially when finaly one of the most beloved characters in the Saga took matters in his hands. No "force pretext" will excuse a poorly technicaly executed FX.

Sorry, that is my point. I still do love Yoda's character, I'm not trying to make him less or just make the point to see your reaction to it.

Ah! I do not need to wait for the DVD to analize anything. I saw it 4 times and my "editor's eye" allows me the privilege of catching quick things when they pop up in the screen......

 

I'll have to disagree. I think it was necessary for Yoda to be that fast. In all respects, he is THE BEST Jedi out there. At that moment, Yoda is THE most powerful Jedi ever. Sure Anakin has midichlorines up the wazzoo, but in that time frame, Yoda is THA' MAN.
Now, all Jedi battles in the PT have been fast and to the point. Look at Obi-Wan and Maul, it was extremely fast. You might say that Dooku was slow fighting, but come on, he was really having fun with Obi-Wan and Anakin. He was not making any effort besides blocking and annoying them. With Yoda at all his speed, Dooku was able to force a stalemate. If Yoda had not been that fast, Dooku might have won the duel.

I know I'm looking at this differently, I'm looking it from a story/plot perspective. Maybe thats why we disagree here.

 

"Judge not me by my size. . ."

Yes, I think that Yoda really needed to kick Dooku's Sith behind by using all of his Force points. Sure, it might seem like to much for some people, but the vast majority of Star Wars fans got up from their seats and cheered knowing they were looking at the true extent of little Yoda's Force abilities.

Now, KABOOOOM!!!!!! KABOOOOOM!!! KABOOOOOM!!!!


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