Who has done a better job capturing the feel of Star Wars in card games?

Discussion in 'Games: CCG, TCG, and Boardgames' started by SithDooku, Jul 11, 2002.

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Who has done a better job capturing the feel of Star Wars in card games?

Poll closed Mar 24, 2012.
DECIPHER 39 vote(s) 67.2%
WIZARDS OF THE COAST 19 vote(s) 32.8%
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  1. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
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    You never should have gone after Tyrannus,

    I hate that guy, especially when he is stacked with A on top. (Unless I am the one playing him) :)
  2. Blues Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 22, 2002
    Just for information :

    From Inquest gamer magazine, september 2002 :

    Top ten CCG's -

    1)Magic the gathering
    2)Yu-Gi-Oh
    3)Pokemon
    4)Star Trek CCG
    5)Star wars TCG - Big Mover this month!
    6)Lord of the rings
    7)Legend of the five rings
    8)MLB showdown
    9)Warlord
    10)Vampire : the eternal struggle
  3. Artie-Deco Jedi Youngling

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    Aug 23, 2001
    star 3
    This has been discussed in another thread. There is some skepticism where InQuest came up with those numbers, since Scrye reports differently.

  4. Blues Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 22, 2002
    I was only writing what I saw...

    What were the positions in Scrye by the way?

    Just out of interest...
  5. Restrainingbolt Jedi Padawan

    Member Since:
    Feb 12, 2002
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    You might want to check the thread "WOTC Negotiating for Star Wars CCG Licence".

    Here is a copy of the post I posted in that thread:

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    Scrye Magazine (July_August)

    Top of the Charts (pg 12)

    Top "Selling CCG's"
    1. Magic The Gathering
    2. Dragonball Z
    3. Lord of the Rings
    4. Mage Knight
    5. Pokemon
    6. Yu-Gi-Oh
    7. Harry Potter
    8. Star Trek
    9. Legend of the Five Rings
    10. Warlord

    I have no clue where Inquest get's it's information, but games that are doing "very well" are normally in the TOP TEN (dollarwise).

    [Edit: Kinda ashame they don't run a top 25. I'd be interested in knowing where the CCG is at this point in time. Excuse me if I'm mistaken, but I do believe the CCG was always in the Top 10 until Decipher lost it's license.]

    R'Bolt

  6. Blues Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 22, 2002
    Who's to know which list is right?

    Although Mage Knight being in a top ten list for CCG's sounds a bit suspect - I thought that was more like a (and I use the term in it's loosest sense) tabletop boardgame?

    Oh well...
  7. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
    star 4
    One list is actuaul sales, and the other is based on favorites of the magazine publishers.
  8. Lord_Sith_Nut Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 7, 2002
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    InQuest is NOTORIOUSLY known for its horrible "resources". Many compute that its just companies paying into their pockets for higher positions, though this is unfounded.

    While at GenCon and sitting at the Comic Images booth [maker of Raw Deal, the Wrestling card game based on WWF/E] an InQuest worker came up to them. Asking if they'd like to post anything in their magazine.

    Barron Vangor Toth said sure, and then the InQuest employee asked for 5$ for him to post it.

    Also, InQuest posted the price of a card called Ankle Lock at 125$, where the card is just a common. AND they posted the price of the World Heavyweight Championship Belt at 4$, where the only way to get this card is to either win a tournament with over 30 participants or to trade/buy it over the net or other way.

    Also, it is heavily requarded that InQuest only really cares about a few games [mostly WotC's, but this is no slant towards WotC].

    Their information is usually a bit outdated and if it isn't its usually wrong.

    Also, they have a yearly Swimsuit competition based on cartoon creations from different card games/movies.... how resputable of a magazine can it honestly be?




  9. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
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    Barron Vangor Toth said sure, and then the InQuest employee asked for 5$ for him to post it.

    5 bucks? Are you kidding? Is that a typo? That cannot posssibly be enough to warrant exposing an imagined corruption scandal.

    Also, they have a yearly Swimsuit competition based on cartoon creations from different card games/movies.... how resputable of a magazine can it honestly be?

    What is this supposed to mean? The entire magazine is based on games. Games are supposed to be fun, and a swimsuit competition like this is not meant to be taken so seriously. Is Sport Illustrated disreputable as well?

    Opinions are opinions. The magazine is highly successful and if the publishing staff wants to print their top ten, why tear down the whole magazine in an effort to cast doubt on it?

    I thought we were past the "grasping at straws" stage when trying to disrepute this game.
  10. Artie-Deco Jedi Youngling

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    Aug 23, 2001
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    I thought we were past the "grasping at straws" stage when trying to disrepute this game.

    He's not dissing SW:TCG, Bacca, he's dissing InQuest, as I am too.

    As I said, it's a juvenile publication. Their target audience is the stereotypical pre-pubescent juvenile boy.

    I am not interested in the opinions of such a publication. The fact that they rank SW:TCG in the Top 3 means absolutely nothing to me.

  11. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
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    Sith Nut has a reputation with being hostile towards the SWTCG. The thread is debating which game is better and the Inquest poll was brought up supporting it. He writes a response aimed at totally discrediting the magazine for reasons that really say nothing. To me, that seems to be aiming towards SWTCG, but if that is not the case, I apologize.
    I have never thought Inquest to be that bad of a mag. It has an audience and I'm sure it sells well.
    I mean it is a magazine for games, how studious and serious does it have to be? Oh well, I don't want to get involved in an Inquest debate now so I'll just back out now.
    This thread is getting off topic anyway and the horse we're beating is long dead. Maybe it is time for a lock.
  12. Viper-TrackMaster Jedi Youngling

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    Aug 12, 2002
    They are both good games in themselves, but Decipher captured the "feel" of the Force much better than WotC. The more advanced you were, the more control and dominance you had over the entire table. Just like a Jedi! Very cool.

    And someone on DeckTech commented on dice vs. tracking very appropriately - "Tracking is cool. I want weighted dice!" :)
  13. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
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    The thread is back on track! :)

    Stay on target.... stay on target....
  14. Lord_Sith_Nut Jedi Youngling

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    Jun 7, 2002
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    Don't worry Baca, I'll keep it on target.... but....

    How can I ignore your responses to me just saying that InQuest has a reputation for not being as well labeled as Scrye?

    Why should I read a half-arsed publication compared to a 101% worked their butts off publication?

    Unlike when Sports Illustrated does a Swimsuit competition, which is aimed at Males, Ages 18+ with REAL women, InQuest goes out, aims this at Males, Ages 12-18, with FAKE women. Drawings.

    Thats where you hafta think. Aiming what can be easily said as pornographic in some nature to the age where its gonna make them think..... and to do it with drawings, that is kinda rediculous.

    Also, to point out, their facts have been a little scrupulous for a VERY long time, compared to Scrye where they have maintained a very good reputation for their entire existance, and are considered the top Gaming publication.

    When you walk to a store, and feel like buying a gaming magazine, which do you reach for Scrye or InQuest? I know the answers to many, but, for some reason Baca you seem to be quite the different person indeed.

    And how does my post supposedly attack SWTCG?

    Clearly you have a defensive antagonistical problem stemming from either having no supportive role-model growing up that showed good defensive ability, OR, you have an inferior cruciant. Meaning if someone blames something, you take it to heart on yourself when it might not have anything to do with you.

    OR, possibly you just have some other minor problem dealing with SWTCG and the feel/need to always back it up, to the death.


    THIS IS NOT A FLAME OR ANYTHING ELSE AIMED AT YOU BACA. THIS IS JUST ME, MERELY USING MY PSYCHOLOGY CLASS TO ITS FULLEST.


    Now, to get the subject back on hand. Yes, I feel SWCCG has done a better feel of capturing the game, because, in SWCCG you can fight on Hoth, Tatooine, Kessel, in space at Coruscant, etc., but you cannot do that in SWTCG, instead your fighting in arenas.

    Ok.... blast at will Baca.






  15. Bacabachaui Manager Emeritus

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    Jan 24, 2002
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    Well, you were making some valid arguments until the personal attack. That really wasn't necesary. All I am doing is responding to your comments. This is a discussion board is it not? I simply have strong opinions. Is that a crime?

    If I had an inferiority complex I would edit out your flame (which you claim is not a flame even though it still is.) Instead I'll respond via PM since that is where personal discussions like this should go.

    Also, this thread is now locked because like I said above, it was getting off topic and even when it was on topic, it is just beating a dead horse that has been dead for a while. We all have out opinions to support whatever game we like.

    I thought members were able to handle a thread like this without it turning into a chance to flame. I even said so to RestrainingBolt above. Clearly you proved me wrong Lord_Sith_Nut.
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