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PT Who has more knowledge of the force, Yoda or Qui-Gon?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Teaviex Cue, Mar 4, 2013.



  1. Yoda

    40 vote(s)
  2. Qui-Gon

    18 vote(s)
  3. Equal

    10 vote(s)
  1. Teaviex Cue

    Teaviex Cue Jedi Padawan

    Dec 25, 2012
    I'm wondering as Qui-Gon discovered the secret of immortality before Yoda?
  2. Chainmail_Jedi

    Chainmail_Jedi Jedi Padawan star 2

    Jan 26, 2013
  3. PiettsHat

    PiettsHat Jedi Grand Master star 4

    Jan 1, 2011
    If the question is in regards to the Force as a whole, then I would say Yoda.

    If it's in regards to knowledge of the Living Force, then I would say Qui-Gon.
  4. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

    Sep 3, 2012
    Yoda, he has been around longer
  5. Placeholder

    Placeholder Jedi Knight star 4

    Jan 30, 2013
    I would say Qui-Gon, going by the prequels.

    Yoda was trapped in the old rigid thinking, it took Qui-Gon's lessons for him to be more like the wise old Yoda we see in Empire. The Yoda we see in the PT isn't nearly as wise.

    Personally, I think the PT botched it.
  6. Darth Chiznuk

    Darth Chiznuk Superninja of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

    Oct 31, 2012
    Yoda. Although I think Qui-Gon was the wiser of the two and the wisest Jedi of them all.
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  7. Feelicks

    Feelicks Jedi Knight star 1

    Dec 7, 2012
    is this even a question
  8. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

    Oct 2, 2000
    Qui-Gon is more devoted to the Living Force, but Yoda, with his experience, is far more knowledgeable about the Force as a whole.

    - Judge me by my size, do you?
    - Well, if it works...

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  9. thesevegetables

    thesevegetables Jedi Knight star 4

    Nov 11, 2012
    Qui-Gon's just got thinking skills and a good attitude.
  10. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Jedi Grand Master star 7

    Aug 31, 2000
    Yoda by far. He's older by many centuries, but is too set in his ways for his knowledge to make a difference when he needed it the most.
  11. Count Yubnub

    Count Yubnub Jedi Knight star 4

    Oct 1, 2012
    Yoda, Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo-Yoda, Yo-Yo-Yo-Yo-Yoda.
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  12. A'den Skirata

    A'den Skirata Jedi Knight star 2

    Sep 26, 2012
    Obviously Yoda
  13. Skelter

    Skelter Jedi Padawan star 1

    Oct 31, 2012
    Yoda of course.
  14. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Oct 23, 2003
    "Who has more knowledge of the force?..."


    Who is teaching whom at the end of ROTS?
    Without Qui Gon, there is no ghost-party on Endor...

    It can be argued that Yoda's knowledge led to ruin, while Qui Gon's led to eternal life.
  15. Darth Ibonek

    Darth Ibonek Jedi Knight star 2

    Jan 11, 2013
    Who knows though, had Yoda died before Qui-Gon, Yoda could have learned about the living force as well.
  16. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

    Jul 2, 2004
    Then why didn't all the other dead Jedi learn the ability? It is implied that Qui-Gon's attainment of ghost status may relate to knowledge discovered during his lifetime.
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  17. Sitara

    Sitara Jedi Master star 3

    Oct 8, 2001
    Knowledge + Wisdom: Qui-Gon
    Power: Yoda

    Yoda appears confused throughout the entire PT. Only in TPM does he appear to be like the ESB Yoda, and actually wise and knowledgeable. In the other two he seems quite clueless. What exactly was the point of going to Kashyyk? How did he ontribute in that battle? Did he even? Wouldn't it have been better if he had stayed, so Yoda could have been part of the posse that attacked Palps?

    Also Yoda didn't seem a whole lot stronger than Qui Gon in the Force at all.
  18. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Sep 13, 2007
    Qui-Gon is definitely taller than Yoda.
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  19. DRush76

    DRush76 Jedi Master star 4

    Jan 25, 2008

    I don't think so. After all, all of Yoda's teachings to Luke reflected Qui-Gon's teachings in TPM.
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    DARTHSHAME Jedi Master star 4

    Dec 19, 2003
    Yoda has more knowledge. Qui-Gon discovered a new application of the Force. It is like science. If a new scientist develops a new line of thinking, it does not automatically make that person the most knowledgeable scientist in that field. Sure, they should be commended for their efforts, but the discovery does not always catapult them to the top.
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  21. Ambervikings91

    Ambervikings91 Jedi Knight star 3

    Dec 1, 2012
    no question yoda
  22. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

    Jul 24, 2010

    ROTS says so

    The End
  23. sg1A

    sg1A Jedi Youngling star 1

    Feb 20, 2013
    Qui-Gon he has more wisdom and knowledge , way more centered then the other jedi. And because he was the first it seems like to be able to become one with the force.

    And im gonna throw this what if question out there. What would have happened had Qui-Gon survived TPM? LOL
  24. SithStarSlayer

    SithStarSlayer Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

    Oct 23, 2003
    The scientist who develops a method to eradicate cancer should simply be commended? They wouldn't automatically be called the best in the business? Not buying that. Qui Gon Jinn never gets the credit that he is due. The dude beat death, he found the cure to the cancer of life in the gffa. Baddest scientist Maverick to ever hold a green glow stick.
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  25. Lord Chazza

    Lord Chazza Jedi Master star 4

    Jan 4, 2013
    Surely Yoda. He was always meant to be the sharpest Jedi in the box. In fact I think it's one of the failings of the PT that Yoda is brought down to the level of all the other Jedi. I'm sure I've talked about this in another thread as well.