Discussions Who here actually LIKED the book Revan?

Discussion in 'EU Community' started by DarthZotte, Feb 21, 2014.

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  1. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    I came in late when it came to the KOTOR games. I played the first and second almost ten years after the first game's release, and then read Revan immediately after. I thought the ending viewed Revan as a great hero because he was still able to protect Bastilla and his son Vaner. It's a great love story.

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  2. kel_Ronin Jedi Padawan

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    I liked it. It's not my favorite but I had no problems with it
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  3. Anakin Solo Revanchist Jedi Grand Master

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    I still haven't played any of the Old Republic games, but I'm still a fan of Revan's character, and I did enjoy the novel.
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  4. Mikaboshi Force Ghost

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    I enjoyed it, as with kel it wasn't my favorite of all time but it was decent.
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  5. Padawan Fangirl Jedi Master

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    I thought it was pretty good.

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  6. Iron_lord Force Ghost

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    I found it an enjoyable enough read - though it must be said that I have never played the KOTOR games.
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  7. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    Try them out, I think you'll really like them. Since you've already read Revan, you will probably enjoy KOTOR II more, because there is very little about KOTOR II mentioned in Revan, while the book talks a lot about the events in the first game. That being said, you'll probably get more out of the second game then you will the first.
  8. Sinrebirth SWC and EUC Forum Moderator

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    It could have been better but I enjoyed it.


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  9. BenKenobi1138 Jedi Padawan

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    I absolutely loved the book! I just wish Revan's role in SWTOR was better/bigger.
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  10. Darth_Zandalor Force Ghost

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    I despised it. Drew Karpyshin should stick to writing games, because he writes his books exactly like them. And comparing Drew Karpyshin to a genius like Chris Avellone in the Game script field is just asking for trouble.

    The book was terrible in my eyes. Character derailment, outright ignoring important facts from KOTOR 2, and completely destroying the entire purpose of the Jedi Exile's existence. (plus Meetra Surik is an awful name, almost as bad as Vaner.)
  11. Mitth_Fisto Force Ghost

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    I agree with the decaying one in the shadowing corner ;)
  12. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    To each his own. I can understand why people who loved the KOTOR games would hate Revan, and people who have NOT played the KOTOR games would probably love Revan (though they would get more out of it if they played the KOTOR games). I personally loved it and I highly respect the games, but what did you mean by 'completely destroying the Exile's existence'?
  13. Force Smuggler Force Ghost

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    I liked the book but have not played the games.
  14. Mia Mesharad Force Ghost

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    I liked parts of it, sure. The section with Canderous and the other Clan Ordo Mandalorians on Rekkiad was great, it was an interesting first look at the society of the Sith Empire, Scourge was intriguing, the background on Vitiate was suitably dark and creepy for the ultimate big bad of the era, and the reawakening of Revan was quite a scene. But the handling of the Exile's character was poor―though I can't say I was bothered by the name Karphyshyn gave her―and Bastila got sidelined in an awkward "shoe out the wife" sort of way, and it seemed as though KotORII was largely being swept under the rug.
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  15. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    You make some good points, but here's something to consider. Drew Karpyshyn, the author, was the lead writer for the first KOTOR but not the second, so it makes sense that he's more focused on the events of the first game rather than the second.
  16. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    Try them, they're really great.
  17. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    New question regarding opinions on Revan: For those of you who have NOT played the games but read the book, what do you take out of the book if you haven't had exposure to the full stories of the KOTOR games beforehand?
  18. Anakin Solo Revanchist Jedi Grand Master

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    If KOTOR is heavily represented in the novel, does that mean that Darth Revan is a character in KOTOR II?
  19. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    He is not, but he's mentioned many times, and the Exile Meetra Surik finds out that he's out there in the galaxy somewhere (which we find out where in the novel).
  20. zark Force Ghost

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    Just for the record, in some respects I agree with you. I disliked "Revan" as a book almost as much as Death Troopers. However, I absolutely loved Path of Destruction. For me at any rate, Karpyshyn is a hit-or-miss author, not just an overall deplorable author. So in that respect I disagree. But it all comes down to personal preference.
  21. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    I loved Revan and the Bane trilogy, but I DID dislike Annihilation. Annihilation was an example of a miss for Drew.
  22. Darth_Zandalor Force Ghost

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    Well, I did enjoy Path of Destruction, but I felt that it took too many liberties with Bane's source material. Plus it kept shoving Darth Revan into the plot for no reason other than to ego stroke.
  23. DarthZotte Jedi Knight

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    I actually felt that the Revan references was a neat touch to the trilogy. It showed that Revan made an impact on people even after so many years.
  24. Darth_Zandalor Force Ghost

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    If it was anyone other than Karpyshin writing the books, I'd just be like "yeah, whatever." But the fact that it was Drew writing it annoyed me.

    Here's the thing: Drew Karpyshin might have created Revan, but he wasn't the one who made the character interesting. If we just go by KOTOR 1 alone, all Revan was was a Sith Lord and a plot twist. It wasn't until KOTOR 2 came around, with Chris Avellone's fantastic script, that people started looking at Revan as this godlike being and greatest force user ever. Avellone was the one that elaborated on Revan's strategic prowess and his moral ambiguity. The idea that he joined the Dark Side out of necessity as a military general was a unique perspective on the nature of the Force, and it gave a lot of depth to an otherwise blank slate character.

    Then, once Revan got back into Karpyshin's hands, he suddenly acts like he came up with all that stuff? I'm sorry, but the Revan in this book, and in TOR is anemic, boring, and derivative. The prospect that he was brainwashed by Darth Vitiate, and that he was actually working for the True Sith all along when he attacked the Republic in the Jedi Civil War does a disservice to the legacy that was built up around his character. He was relegated from a smart, if incredibly cruel and calculating warlord, into just another pawn of an even more derivative and boring Super Sith.
  25. Skywalker_T-65 Force Ghost

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    ^That. So much that.
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