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Who is surprised Anakin isn't any stronger than he is at this point after season 5

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by darkchrono, Mar 4, 2013.

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  1. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    Who is surprised that Anakin isn't any stronger than he is at this point. In ROTS he is so powerful that he is able to take out Dookuu but in the season 5 finale Bariss was able to put up at least a decent fight against him. It looks like there is a year at most until ROTS so is anybody else surprised they don't have Anakin any more powerful than he is at this point.
     
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  2. 07jonesj

    07jonesj Jedi Master star 4

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    The power of the Jedi/Sith has always fluctuated in SW to suit the situation. Just the way it is. With his duel with Barriss, it can be easily argued he was holding back, as he wanted her alive.

    Huh, we've had two duels with Barriss in this show and both times the other participant was holding back against Barriss. Must be her feminine charms? :p
     
  3. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Bariss is a Jedi Knight though, she's not weak. It's not like Anakin is terrible, I mean this was like his only duel all season. He'll mostly likely show off more next season.
     
  4. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Anakin was holding back so he didn't accidentally kill her, so he is powerful, he has shown it
     
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  5. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    Amen, brother. Alas, Star Wars writers have never been especially consistent in honoring the hierarchies they create. Granted, real world combat can defy such things depending on circumstance, environment, motivation, etc. but not as frequently as it has been here. Anakin should have trashed Barriss with impunity.
     
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  6. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Master star 4

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    Okay, lets put a stop to all this "X is supposed to be more powerful than Y" stuff that keeps going around.

    Listen, in real life, just because someone may be considered stronger than another person or some team of people is better at some sport does not mean they are automatically going to stomp the opposition. There are so many other variables involved in these sorts of conflicts that its difficult to say for sure if the stronger person will always come out the victor. These things don't work like a video game where when your character/pokemon levels up then you are automatically the bestest ever.

    So having said that, lets consider some reasons for why Bariss could have held her own against Anakin and actually think it through instead of relying on some sort of charts and statistics ideology.

    Someone previously mentioned in the thread that he was holding back because he didn't want to kill Bariss. Good enough for me, the fight in the episode in question was already choreographed to demonstrate that taking on Bariss was not at all a problem for Anakin, demonstrated by the way he effortlessly finished the fight.
     
  7. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Did you just endorse Barrissoka 'shipping? :p

    Ahsoka wasn't holding back against Barriss, though. Barriss seemed to be the one holding back slightly in that duel.
     
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  8. Sinrebirth

    Sinrebirth Immortal Mod-King of the EUC, RPF and SWC star 8 Staff Member Manager

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    I thought I watched an episode where Anakin beat the living daylights out of Barriss when she was not able to use her acrobatics on him.

    Oh, and he also beat the stuffing out of Ventress.

    In the same day.
     
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  9. hlc88

    hlc88 Jedi Master star 4

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    He would have had a harder time with Ventress if she'd actually had her lightsabers though :p
     
  10. Spacecrawler

    Spacecrawler Jedi Youngling

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    I'd expect the fight to be difficult for him because he would be fighting the force's guidance. He more than likely wanted to snap her neck like a twig but he'd have to fight that urge in favor of bring her in alive.
     
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  11. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Pfffft, he still would have owned her :p :cool:
     
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  12. Jordan1Kenobi

    Jordan1Kenobi Host of Star Wars Character Contest star 6 VIP - Game Host

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    Anakin owned Barriss, it just seemed like he wasn't even trying some of the time, and he didn't want to kill her, so he couldn't use all of his power, but considering she was a Jedi Knight that had turned to the dark side, he did a really good job.
     
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  13. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    I wondered why Anakin would want to fight Barriss with two blades, isn't he more proficient with one?

    Oh well, Rule of Cool I guess.
     
  14. InterestingLurker

    InterestingLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Barriss was practically running away from him the entire fight.
     
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  15. Deputy Rick Grimes

    Deputy Rick Grimes Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    You don't know the power of Anakin Skywalker :p
     
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  16. QuangoFett

    QuangoFett Jedi Master star 4

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    Escape is her objective. She's certainly intent on killing Anakin, but even if she doesn't and if she just evades capture, that would still count as a victory for her.

    She does get the upper hand for a few brief sections of the duel, notably when she kicks him over the side of the balcony into the training grounds. At other times, the balance of power swings back and forth, usually in Anakin's favour. His objectives are to overpower and apprehend her, which are more demanding than hers (killing him and/or escaping).

    Similar with the Ventress fight, only her objectives exclude killing Anakin.

    I still don't see how totally defeating a powerful former Sith Apprentice and fully trained Jedi Knight in the space of a few hours can be considered "weak."
     
  17. Zer0

    Zer0 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Still, when they clashed, Anakin wasn't getting the upper hand very much.
     
  18. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Eh, after all the complaints about Obi-Wan, Anakin will now be the new Filoni favorite for getting his ass kicked in every episode.
     
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  19. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I can go for that! :p (For a change.)
     
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  20. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 9 Staff Member Manager

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    Valairy, you missed all the "Obi-Wan gets pwned by Dooku! LOL!" posts in the 3SA forum back in the day.

    //off topic post but what the hell is on topic now that the season is over
     
  21. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Backpacking One Pack a Day Mod of New Films star 6 Staff Member Manager

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    I didn't miss those posts - gah, I was so :mad: over all these posts claiming Obi-Wan is a poor fighter - can't beat Jango (like folks are saying here as regards Anakin, he was fighting to capture a man who was fighting to kill), can't beat Dooku (duh, he was imprisoned AND fought in a battle beforehand, not to mention his style was not effective against Dooku's style), only lost to Anakin because Anakin made a mistake because no way Anakin wouldn't own Obi-Wan in a straight up fight...

    So when TCW started the tradition of a weak Obi-Wan unable to finish a fight...I was not a happy fan.

    And now the issue is the idiocy and stupidity of the Council for not trusting a padawan's word against the evidence - I've decided not to blow up over that.
     
  22. Sable_Hart

    Sable_Hart Jedi Master star 4

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    So you would be totally cool with Barriss or a similar figure beating Yoda?
     
  23. darkchrono

    darkchrono Jedi Master star 4

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    That is Obi Wan's style of fighting. He isn't a super aggressive fighter and stays patient and waits for his opponent to make a mistake instead being aggressive and making a mistake himself. I think many of Obi Wan's fights where it looks like he isn't that strong are just planned that way by him. He was that way in the movies as well.
     
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  24. Circular Logic

    Circular Logic SWTV Interview Host star 4 VIP - Game Host

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    Indeed. Such is the style of a true Soresu user. A supposed master of this form can potentially be "invincible."
     
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  25. HighlanderC

    HighlanderC Jedi Master star 1

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    Anakin needs to get a lot more powerful. A lot darker too. They need to portray him like fighting totally easy... something in the style of what we see in the hologram that obi-wan watches in ROTS or something similar to Neo on the Matrix. Economy of movement.
     
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