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Saga Who is the TRUE main character of Star Wars?

Discussion in 'Star Wars Saga In-Depth' started by Smelly Wookies, Mar 22, 2015.

  1. Smelly Wookies

    Smelly Wookies Jedi Youngling

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    I was reading an article few hours back on the debate between the main character of a story, and the protagonist. I learned that even though many stories are based on the idea that the two are one, it taught that there are other stories that, in fact, have them both as separate characters. He defines it, that a protagistinst is a character in the story that the reader witnesses change, and grow throughout the story. He's the one driving the story. Then, a main character is not that, but WHOM the story is told from, their perspective.

    Like for example, in the Shawshank Redemption. Andy is clearly the protagonist, as we witness change and grow, and that he's also the guy moving the plot along. Without Andy, we wouldn't have a story. But its Red is whom we get to learn that story from. He's the one really giving us the story, and the one whole we're emotionally involved with. Hence, making him not the Protagonist, since it isn't his story, but the Main Character, the guy who's affected by all of it. If so, then how could we apply that to Star Wars (IV - VI)?

    I guess we can all agree that Luke is clearly the Protagonist, since its his story, and he's the one driving the plot in a way. Without him, there would be no Star Wars. But who would be the MAIN CHARACTER is my question. Are both of the roles played by Luke in the story, or like Red in Shawshank, there's a nother character whom perspective we get to learn Luke's story from.

    If so, then who it might be? If if so, what are some other good examples of separate main characters and protagonists in books, movies or TV Shows?
     
  2. Among the Clouds

    Among the Clouds Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Considering all six films, I think the idea is that Anakin/Vader is the main character. He tragically falls in the PT and is redeemed in the OT by his son. Luke is the guy we see the most of in the OT, but he's a more of a secondary main character. The saga is largely told thru the eyes of Obi-Wan and the droids, though. At least that's my take on it.
     
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  3. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Skywalker Saga/LFL/YJCC Manager star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    I'd probably go with Anakin/Vader, but one nice thing about Star Wars is that it covers the journeys of many characters.
     
  4. Obi Wan Kenobi.

    Obi Wan Kenobi. Jedi Youngling

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    I'd say that Anakin/Darth Vader is the main character but, like The Shawshank Redemption (my favorite movie of all time), the protagonist is a different person. I think that person is Obi Wan.
     
  5. Saga Explorer

    Saga Explorer Jedi Knight star 3

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    Star Wars Saga ( movies + TCW(mostly) ) =Anakin Skywalker(Fall,Rise and Redemption)
    Besides that there is Luke's Hero Journey in IV-VI and somewhat Obi Wan Kenobi fits as a protagonist in I-III .
    Of course the good thing about Star Wars is that are many heroes and relatable characters to choose from :) .
     
  6. darkspine10

    darkspine10 Chosen One star 8

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    R2-D2: He's the only character in all six films, who doesn't die and retains his entire memory. He's the only character at the end who actually has a point of view on the events of all the films.
     
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  7. Ewok Poet

    Ewok Poet Force Ghost star 6

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    R2-D2 is the narrator, Skywalkers are the protagonists.
     
  8. ATMachine

    ATMachine Jedi Master star 4

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    Luke Skywalker. Duh.
     
  9. mes520

    mes520 Jedi Master star 4

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    I would say the Skywalkers and friends are the main characters.

    Though one could argue it's Anakin Skywalker. The PT were his earlier years and his turn. The OT were final years and redemption. The ST will be his legacy.
     
  10. MOC Vober Dand

    MOC Vober Dand Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Moving to Saga.

    OT = Luke
    PT = Anakin
     
  11. Jedi Knight Fett

    Jedi Knight Fett Chosen One star 10

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    I would have two say Vader/Anakin because Luke is only seen in 4 of the 6 movies.
     
  12. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    Anakin Skywalker.
     
  13. Cushing's Admirer

    Cushing's Admirer Chosen One star 7

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    I would say either Sidious or Luke.
     
  14. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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  15. TheAvengerButton

    TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I don't think the Saga is meant to highlight or elevate one person in particular. Rather, the Saga is an Ensemble piece. Each character has an important part to play in the story and does something to cause the story to progress. Also, each character has their own arc that is fulfilled throughout the movies. It's very easy to boil it down to Anakin and Luke as the two main protagonists, with Anakin now being the one with the much larger role, but that's making it too simplistic for my tastes. I think the characters are of equal standing.
     
  16. Mr. Forest

    Mr. Forest Chosen One star 6

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    With the new trilogy coming out I think each trilogy will have their own main character, or at least that how the fans will come to think of it. Well, I am sure this is how I will come to think of it.

    Prequel Trilogy: Anakin Skywalker (Obi-Wan Kenobi, Padme Amidala)
    Classic Trilogy: Luke Skywalker (Han Solo, Princess Leia)
    Sequel Trilogy: ???

    This is just making me realize how excited I am to see the journey of the new "big 3" in the upcoming new trilogy.
     
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  17. Darth_Nub

    Darth_Nub Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    No one.

    Luke's the main character of the OT, but the PT as a whole doesn't have a central protagonist, despite GL's attempts to make Anakin the focus by the time of ROTS, and the Anakin/Vader storyline throughout the OT is too tangential in SW/ANH and ESB to say that it's a direct continuation of Eps I-III at a personal level.
    Anakin's story simply isn't prominent enough in TPM, SW/ANH and ESB to say that he's the main character of all six films. He's the focus of AOTC and ROTS, then his story is properly resumed in ROTJ.
     
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  18. Rtwofan

    Rtwofan Jedi Knight

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    If you are talking about all six films together, there is only one main character in all of them, R2-D2. 3P0 is a sidekick.
     
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  19. JEDI-RISING

    JEDI-RISING Chosen One star 6

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    There are multiple heroes and villains , but The main Protagonist is Anakin Skywalker, and the main Antagonist is Darth Sidious.
     
  20. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    Interesting idea.

    Well the protagonist is Anakin Skywalker who becomes Darth Vader and the antagonist is Palpatine/Darth Sidious.

    From the above description you give then you could assign Luke Skywalker as the main character as the story of IV-VI is centred around him and his perspective. It's a shift really as while Anakin is the protagonist it's not actually revealed in story terms that Palpatine actually is the antagonist Darth Sidious.

    Sure we know but in story there is no reveal of Palpatine is Sidious until halfway through ROTS. It's only there he is fully revealed as the antagonist and Anakin is too young to be the prime protagonist of TPM while Qui-Gon is the main character. Anakin takes over as the main character for AOTC and ROTS while Luke takes on both main and protagonist while Vader becomes one of the sub-antagonists in ANH with Tarkin and main in TESB while sliding back as Sidious takes his place back after moving to the side for ANH and TESB.

    So really it's a shifting scale for each of those over the saga.
     
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  21. SatineNaberrie

    SatineNaberrie Jedi Master star 4

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    In the OT I'd say Luke and Vader are the two main characters
    In PT Obi-wan and Anakin are the main characters
     
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  22. L110

    L110 Jedi Master star 4

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    As far as I´m concerned there is not any main character in the saga, it´s an ansamble piece. It´ s one of the many things I like about the films.
     
  23. Messi

    Messi Jedi Padawan star 2

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    OT: Luke
    PT: Anakin/Vader
     
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  24. Jo B1 Kenobi

    Jo B1 Kenobi Jedi Master star 2

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    I think, according to your defintion, the protagonist is Anakin / Vader. However, I don't think there is a main character through who's eyes we witness the story. If the 6 film saga were told as a single story in a book it would be told from what is called the 'God Perspective', whichI think means from the point of view of someone who can see everyone all the time and moves where the action is.

    This 'God perspective' makes things easier to put together but weakens the narrative strength of the story. I think stories told from one, single perspective tend to be much stronger and more intimate but that format does limit what bits of the story you can show at any one time. That said, the limits imposed by having a main character can be used to great effect in terms of suspense...e.g. in Shawshank, when Red doesn't know that Andy has escaped, just that he hasn't come out of his cell for role call., or another example of using a single perspective main character to great effect is in Blade Runner with the noir-type detective voice-over which I adore.

    I think some writers sort of split the difference and use a main character per scene, so that although the main character changes, there is still a point of reference for each part of the story. I think this is a good way of giving a story the strong narrative drive you get when you have a main character and still being free to allow your readership / audience know things that are not know by any single character.

    I wonder if, in 20 years time, a team planned to reshoot the whole saga which narrative format would we, as an audience, prefer? I'd go for 1st person or 3rd person, but a single main character.

    (PS: smelly-wookies - Good question - I enjoyed thinking about this!)
     
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  25. Smelly Wookies

    Smelly Wookies Jedi Youngling

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    Best explanation yet. I total agree with you man. A limited, more 'compact' narrative would in fact make for a stronger story. Just look at great films like the Godfather, or the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Also, speaking on old classics, who could give examples of movies that have made the split between the main and the protagonist.

    For example: Indiana Jones, Jaws, E.T?