Who thinks Daala will show up in the NJO?(spoilers for Dark Journey and Rebel Dream)

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Who thinks Daala will show up in the NJO?(spoilers for Dark Journey and Rebel Dream)

Poll closed Mar 28, 2012.
Yes, I think she'll show up and offer her assistance to the Rebellion. 15 vote(s) 25.9%
No.By the Force I hope not. 43 vote(s) 74.1%
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  1. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    Mar 19, 2000
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    Well, she was supposed to be according to here back history.

    But it was hard to tell, in the novels, because she was hounded by a sith apprentice in a near invincible ship, who was doing her major damage relentlously.
  2. Jarik Jedi Master

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    Jun 21, 2000
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    "Not a lack of tactics. How could she possibly know that Jedi where capable of repulsing a whole starfleet with the Force ??? Hey, I bet even Thrawn wouldn't have guessed!"

    Maybe, maybe not. But he had ysalamari on HIS ships.
  3. ReaperFett Jedi Grand Master

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    Dec 9, 1999
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    wouldnt have stopped the ships being pushed away
  4. Jarik Jedi Master

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    "wouldnt have stopped the ships being pushed away"

    Yeah, it would've The force push would've died when reaching the ysalamari bubble.
  5. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    Nov 18, 1999
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    Not necessarily - the ysalamari do not stop the Force. They have been rendered ineffective as an anti-Jedi crutch for ab author unable to write Jedi correctly.

    It is unknown if the levels of Force power being tossed about at that time would or would not sweep away the ysalamari.
  6. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    It was said in the Official star wars encyclapedia(steve sansweet) that the power they used, was not just the power of force push, but also power of force storm bending space around the ships(not as destructive as the type used by palpatine, though).
  7. Jarik Jedi Master

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    "They have been rendered ineffective as an anti-Jedi crutch for ab author unable to write Jedi correctly."

    When and how? As far as I know they still worked and they worked then.

    "but also power of force storm"

    Ok so the ysalamari would stop the force storm too.
  8. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    It was in one of Stackpole's NJO books, either Ruin or Onslaught (I think it was Onslaught) that Luke states he's found a technique to handle the ysalamari anti-Force.

    Therefore, such methods exist and the ysalamari's anti-power is therefore not absolute. It seemed something else our blue-skinned "genius" was ignorant of.
  9. Jarik Jedi Master

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    Jun 21, 2000
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    Well that's 14 years too late for what we're talking about. I do actually remember that a little now. I think it still diminished his power a little bit though.

    And anyway just cause Luke can do it doesn't mean that all the Jedi especially the weaker ones know how to and/or can do it.
  10. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    However, it also doesn't mean they couldn't do it either.

    The only thing it does mean is that the ysalamari anti-power is not absolute. Which means Thrawn might have had the same problem Daala did.
  11. Jarik Jedi Master

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    Not absolute, but back then before Luke discovered the technique the ysalamari's power was good ENOUGH.
  12. Mastadge Manager Emeritus

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    Jun 4, 1999
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    The whole vessels weren't encompassed by the ysalimirs, that would've taken too many. Maybe the push wouldn't've gone al the way through the ships, but it certainly would've pushed at the hulls, and momentum would've done the rest.
  13. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    I would perhaps make the parallel to doing the same to a Vong ship.

    We know Jedi can affect Vong creations through the Force. Therefore, if the Jedi tried the same thing, flinging a Vong armada across the galaxy, it would most likely kill every Vong onboard. The ships may get moved, while the Vong remain unaffected - the result is that I doubt the Vong could resist the blunt trauma of getting smacked by a ship's hull as it moves across the galaxy.

    Compare that to Thrawn's ysalamari-covered bridge. His ships would most likely be torn apart as the ysalamari's bubbles stayed put, while the rest of the ship was flung across the galaxy.
  14. Jarik Jedi Master

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    Jun 21, 2000
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    Ok, maybe. We'll never know. But it doesn't really matter.
  15. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    Also an excellent point. :D
  16. Grand Admiral Wettengel Jedi Youngling

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    Jan 10, 2000
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    While it doesn't matter, I agree with you, Genghis.
  17. Darth Tuna Jedi Master

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    Aug 18, 1999
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    Well, so she's defined as a master tactician, but the problem is, her masterly tactics have not won any victories. She has a credibility problem. Also, she has new meaning in her life after a midlife crisis. If the Vong don't directly bug her, she is not going to get involved.

  18. killfire Force Ghost

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    Jan 6, 2001
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    She'll be back and bring her sister Lama, too ...
  19. The Gatherer Jedi Youngling

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    I don't think the franchise will bring her back, most likley someone from the Hapan sub-plots from the YJK series, or Courtship of Princess Leia.
  20. Jaded_Girl Jedi Master

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    I would prefer that Daala stay in quiet anonymity. I disliked much in KJA's trilogy, but I would be hard pressed to find something I disliked more than Daala.

    I admit, I am not gifted with the gift of strategy, but to me, Daala's moves just seemed stupid! The military moves she makes are simple (not elegant in their simplicity, but simple-minded) and she never plans for other contingencies!

    (And as for who is the better tactician, c'mon, people! I CANNOT see Daala winning in a fight against Thrawn!)
  21. stevo Jedi Master

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    Aug 14, 2001
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    All of you say that she always looses, but GA Thrawn didn't have to face a dark jedi in an invincible ship that could destroy suns. Then, when KJA wrote Darksaber he had only one book. He couldn't drag it out, so he had to end it. It kinda dissappointed me, a ssd and a deathstar gone in a matter of 40 pages(rotj flashback?)
  22. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    Well, most of daala's past excellent strategies were supposed to have occured, before she met tarkin(see, the essential guide to characters, and guide to star wars universe 3rd edition, for added backhistory). It would seem that she has gone rusty being trapped in the maw, and that jedi and Suncrusher(near-invincible weapon) are not something she quite understands, how to fight.
  23. Charlemagne19 Chosen One

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    Jul 30, 2000
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    Daala is obviously suffering post traumatic stress syndrome.

    Let's face it, Tarkin grew tired of her as a lover and placed her in a situation for TEN YEARS of monotonous busy-work with no human contact but people directly under her chain of command.

    With the transformation of the galaxy the best equivalent I can describe is Admiral Daala being a Nazi Colonel put in a cave til the End of the Cold War and emerging with an army of WW2 tanks to take over.....

    If she had studied under Rhommel or some other genius of the Naziss....more power to her but by now EVERYONE knows what Rhommel's tactics are!

    What she finds innovative and cutting edge became policy, was counteracted, and became military text-book grad school works.

    Only by Darksaber did she regain some innovation and her "innovation" was political with her military tactics now "use the largest hammer possible".

    and get rid of bigotry in the Empire (already started by Luminya and Canor Jax)

    The eradication of a Imperial fleet in Planet of Twilight was probably a catharsis for her...as was the assumption causally of a lover she's abandoned for 20 years and enslaved....

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