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Who Wants Marvel Reprints?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by David_Land, Oct 5, 2001.

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  1. Strider_J

    Strider_J Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Peregrine, you bring up a good point. Does the EU accept Marvel comics presenting a sandcrawler being able to fit inside the sarlaac?
     
  2. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "So we now seperate GLs authority from EU authority?"

    Yes, the EU is of it's own history than what Lucas puts, and LFL the company decides the direction it goes.

    "Mosep and Jabba the Hut?"

    Starwars.com specifically(where those official in-universe mos eisely prefect's office crime picture, and prefect report file comes from). It is also hinted at in EGTC, NEGTC, galaxy magazine #6, and other sources.


    "When you say GL discarded the character I would consider that authoritative."

    GL never discarded the character infact he never said much about him, only the EU did. LFL decides what goes on in the EU, not Lucas.

    "When I said you guys are wrong, I was referring to real world facts, not continuity fixes in the EU."

    The real world fact, is that LFL is beyond Lucas control, he only owns a part of it. The fact of the matter is that LFL defines what happens not Lucas. This is why Boba Fett is still alive, Palpatine ressurected himself, etc etc, in the canon/continuity of the EU.

    "Does the EU accept Marvel comics presenting a sandcrawler being able to fit inside the sarlaac?"

    Mini-sandcrawler technology was used again the darkhorse story "underworld", and also in Gamer #6 article. Galaxy Magazine #6, states that Boba fett fell into the sarlacc more than once.

    "Though I get the sense, what is trolling?"

    On the Internet, a troll is a person who posts messages that create controversy or an angry response without adding content to the discussion, often intentionally. ...trolls often resort to innuendo or misdirection in the pursuit of their objective, which is to create controversy for its own sake, discredit those with whom they disagree, or sabotage discussion by creating an intimidating atmosphere.
    -wikipedia

    Course we can let Genghis decide what he thinks about you, can't we, :).





     
  3. Strider_J

    Strider_J Jedi Youngling star 1

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    What is EGTC and NEGTC? I'm pretty sure my car would clog up the sarlaac, let alone a "mini-sandcrawler". Boba Fett fell in in Jedi, and Marvel #81. What was the third time?
     
  4. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "EGTC and NEGTC"

    The two Essential Guide to Characters volumes.


    1. at the beginning of ROTJ, he escaped soon after falling in by blasting out of the sarlacc("barve like that"), to have an adventure in BHW, that led up to same point in time as the battle of endor.

    2.He then went back to the sarlacc and fell in for some reason. He was regurgitated by the sarlacc and was resting on the sand. He was mistaken for a droid by some Jawas.

    3. Then the mini-sandcrawler(a sand crawler smaller than the size of the sarlacc's mouth) fell in, with him in it. He escaped for the third time. Somehow the sandcrawler was regurgitated, or removed.

    He came back a short time later to "try" to destroy the sarlacc, with explosives(Dark Empire SB short story) and the slave one's exaust("barve like that" epilogue). But he wasn't very successful. Perhaps he destroyed the mini-sandcrawler if it was still there?

    At about 1 year after the battle of yavin, Zorba was dropped into the still living Sarlacc, but was regurgitated, because Sarlacc's don't like the taste of Hutts, :).
     
  5. Strider_J

    Strider_J Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Cool, I actually have the EGTC. I guess the moral of Boba Fett's sarlaac experience is that once something is put down in the EU, it can never be replaced. We will defy the laws of physics and/or logic to make it fit.

    Now for a history lesson - Marvel #81 brought Boba back. I thought this was very cool. Later, Zorba got tossed in in the "Glove of DV" series. It seems the authors had no concept that Boba/or at least a sandcrawler had been there before. Tales from Jabba's Palace (I believe) was written and had Boba escaping from his initial fall with no concept of Marvel #81 having taken place. Why, because when that was written, Marvel comics were not in official continuity. Later, it was decided it all fit and now we have the most ruthless efficient bounty hunter in the galaxy having fallen into this sarlaac three seperate times!

    And beyond that, who exactly would choose to remove a sandcrawler from the sarlaacs mouth? Did Boba drive it out? If you fell in the sarlaac once and made it back out, would you go anywhere near it again?
     
  6. Genghis12

    Genghis12 Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Strider...
    "Why, because when that was written, Marvel comics were not in official continuity."

    Incorrect. Marvel has never not been in official continuity. It was at times not specifically highlighted, but it has from its initial publishing always been considered to be a part of the overall Star Wars saga.

    Secrets of Shadows of the Empire specifically addressed the status of Marvel series in the early 90's when "canon" and the "canon bible" were created.
     
  7. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "Tales from Jabba's Palace (I believe) was written and had Boba escaping from his initial fall with no concept of Marvel #81 having taken place."

    That is because he escaped about a month before marvel #81 takes place chronologically. It didn't have to refer to Marvel #81, simply because the event occured before marvel #81.

    The Galaxy #6 article that explained that he fell into the sarlacc more than once, came out after the Tales Anthology, within the same year.

    "would you go anywhere near it again?"

    ya, he chose to return to it on several occasions, including the times he came back to try to destroy it with exaust from the slave one, or blowing it up with explosives. All evidence points to him probably trying to destroy it when he fell into it the second time, developing amnesia. He didn't exactly choose to go to it the third time as the sandcrawler was out of control.

    Oh and by the way its possible that the sarlacc just digested the sandcrawler, noticed it could digest through Mandalorian Iron in Boba's armor, one of the hardest substances known to the galaxy, and that was just in the short time that Boba Fett was in the Sarlacc the first time. A sandcrawler surely wouldn't be made out of that, and would be much easier to digest.
     
  8. Strider_J

    Strider_J Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Isn't the Mandalorian armor merely a chest plate and some kneepads?

    Anyway, I just checked the EGTC and it only references the "barve" incident and that Dengar found him laying there. The EGTC came out in 1995, more than 10 years after Marvel #81. So Marvel #81 wasn't part of it all then.
     
  9. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    "Isn't the Mandalorian armor merely a chest plate and some kneepads?"

    Helmet, Chestplate, Kneepads, wristarmor, and few other things. They are made out of mandalorian iron one of hardest substances known in the Galaxy. The sarlacc was able to digest it, a big feat.

    "Anyway, I just checked the EGTC and it only references the "barve" incident and that Dengar found him laying there."

    Umm, I was talking about the mosep information, you seemed to have mixed up two different topics. The characters involved with the Orleon story are hinted to be Jabba's employees rather than Jabba himself under Jabba's entry.

    The multiple falls of Boba Fett was discussed in Galaxy Magazine #6, and starwars.com. Your mixing up topics and sources that refer to those topics.

    "A dyspeptic Sarlacc regurgitates the hunter onto the desert sands. Fett, stunned and suffering amnesia, stumbles across Solo once again. The tale ends with Fett tumbling into the Sarlacc again, though it was definitely not his last appearance."-starwars.com

    It turns out he didn't die in the Sarlacc Pit--he was regurgitated and developed amnesia. Fett encounters Solo a second time in a runaway sand crawler that plunges into the sarlacc pit again. Once more he's found indigestable. When the brothers of Jabba put a bounty on Han and Leia, Boba's the guy to track it down with his old pal dengar."-galaxy #6
     
  10. The2ndQuest

    The2ndQuest Tri-Mod With a Mouth star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    bump, by request
     
  11. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    Was the Jabba stand-in from "Sleight of Hand" in Tales from Jabba's Palace Heater or yet another imposter?
     
  12. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    Different guy named Opun "Blackhole" Mcgrrrr, not an imposter, and a the head of a smaller crime syndicate that was a rival to Jabba.

    Mcgrrrr, Opun
    this burly man, known as "The Black Hole," was the son of Hethra Mcgrrrr, although he obtained most of his status from his mother's name. Opun was the owner of the Holiday Towers hotel on Cloud City, until Jabba the Hutt took control in a bloody coup. Mcgrrrr then stole the accounting droid CZ-3 from Jabba's townhouse on Tatooine, during a stay at the townhouse as one of Jabba's guests shortly before the Battle of Yavin. Mcgrrrr hoped to take the data from within CZ-3's brain and use it to blackmail Jabba. Unfortunately, Mcgrrrr didn't know that the droid had been equipped with a miniature transceiver rig, which recorded a number of his criminal doings. Later, the Squib named Mace Windu obtained the droid, and it was later sold by Aguillea at the Jawa Traders store. Mcgrrrr ordered his underling Tols Vengra to recover the droid, which was later destroyed by Zutton.

    The newest refrence to Boba Fett's multiple escapes is in the newest Insider;

    "Fett's Escape from the sarlacc...he's done it more than once..."
    -Insider 77.
     
  13. Esplin9466

    Esplin9466 Jedi Master star 4

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    The Squib named Mace Windu? Where'd that come from?
     
  14. Valiento

    Valiento Jedi Knight star 7

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    His real name is actually Macemillian-winduarte. Mace Windu was his nickname. He probably was named after the great Jedi master.

    Oh and his name predates the prequel films, but was based on what at the time was an unused name from the early drafts of star wars.

    Lucas also used the name Mace, as the name for the youngest son of the Towani family.

    "Mace
    this given name was common human males across the galaxy. (Galactic Campaign Guide)"

    Its up there with Bail, and Antilles. Its apparently not only common with humans, but is used by other species as well...
     
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