Rebels Who will you blame for weak episode of "Star Wars Rebels"?

Discussion in 'Star Wars TV' started by Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan, May 13, 2014.

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Who will you blame for weak episode of "Star Wars Rebels"?

The writers 20 vote(s) 50.0%
The directors 2 vote(s) 5.0%
The producers 7 vote(s) 17.5%
Others 11 vote(s) 27.5%
  1. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    Sep 3, 2012
    star 4
    Ok. I am curious to hear opinions on this, but I am not sure how this goes with Star Wars fans.

    So when "The Clone Wars" gave us weak / bad episodes or episodes that some of us thought were bad, the first "villains" to be pointed at were the writers or Lucas.
    I never heard somebody blame the directors of the individual episodes or arcs. Are the writers really the ones to blame if an episode is poorly received?!

    It is kinda different when reading comments about a movie, people tend to blame the director more than the writer / writers. The writers get away most of the times.
    When I read comments about how much some do not like the new Star Trek movies then I "enjoy" a lot of "Cause J. J. Abrams sucks" or something like that (I am giving this as an example cause J.J. is now in charge of the Star Wars movies). Even with some videos like "Everything wrong with X-men: The Last Stand in...", the guy in the video mostly places the blame on the director Brett Ratner and not on the writers (one of which is Simon Kinberg).

    If there are weak episodes in "Star Wars Rebels" then who will you point the finger at?


    PS: Not trying to be negative, I am curious just which is the main reason for most fans. I am excited for the show and what it will offer.
  2. Nexumaster Force Ghost

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    Feb 21, 2005
    star 4
    It's the writers job to make an episode work with their writing, but if the writing is bad or otherwise negative in a way that directly hurts the episode, it is they who logically should logically get flack for a weak/bad episode (or rather just the writing itself since I don't really want to blame a writer directly for a subpar product). Still, a director is supposed to steer the writers in the right direction and approve the final scripts so a bad/lackluster episode is also his/her fault as well since he/she has approved the episode and is perfectly okay with the transformation from script into final episode, despite the fact that many of us watchers might think the final product turns out bad.
    Last edited by Nexumaster, May 13, 2014
  3. Cushing's Admirer Chosen One

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    Jun 8, 2006
    star 7
    The responsibility isn't solely on one person. The writers are the ones conveying the message so I usually give them a fair amount of responsibility, I am a story teller that writes, myself. What you convey is just as important as how you convey it. The others I'd give most responsibility to is whoever approves the stories in the first place. Yet, some also rests on us fans for how we handle what we perceive is a weak story.
  4. Heero_Yuy Chosen One

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    Nov 28, 2000
    star 4
  5. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Mar 26, 2013
    star 4
  6. Darth Valkyrus Force Ghost

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    Apr 12, 2013
    star 4
    As long as they don't get the Star Trek Voyager writers they should be all right. Voy was pure dreck by the time it was out of the first season, and rarely strayed from it. The absolute nadir of the horror was probably the infamous Warp Ten Lizards episode.
  7. Senator Kelberry Force Ghost

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    Mar 22, 2010
    star 3
    chose 'others' because 'no one' wasn't an option.

    if I like something on TV or in books and movies, then that's it. I like it and I come back to it when I'm looking for something good to watch.

    However, if I don't like it, I don't come back to it and move on. I don't care who may or may not be responsible for it.
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  8. DanielUK Force Ghost

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    Nov 1, 2012
    star 4
  9. K'Kruhk Force Ghost

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    Dec 11, 2011
    star 3
  10. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Mar 4, 2011
    star 8
  11. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Mar 26, 2013
    star 4
    [face_laugh]
  12. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Sep 3, 2012
    star 6
  13. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    Feb 28, 2003
    star 4
    Depends on the circumstances. TCW had the method of a lot of the ideas originating as a vague synopsis by Lucas given to writers to flesh out. Sometimes the synopsis was just so bad that I can't really fault the writers for being able to pull it off (e.g. D-squad; poison tea). Other times I think there's a solid idea, but that was executed by the writers poorly (e.g. Onderon).

    I pretty much don't blame the director, unless the director had also written or at least came up with the idea. But I can't really think of an instance in TCW where bad directing is alone to blame for a bad episode of TCW.

    If the writers are given more freedom, then they'll probably be the ones I blame the most. If Filoni fills Lucas' shoes and just starts dictating vague ideas to be developed into stories, then I'll likely blame him most of the time, unless - like Lucas - he sometimes gets a good idea that just isn't executed well, IMO.
  14. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Mar 26, 2013
    star 4
    BREAKING NEWS: Disney cancels Star Wars Rebels, cite "Insightful Forum Post"
    Last edited by Darkslayer, May 13, 2014
  15. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    Sep 3, 2012
    star 6
  16. Dark Lord Tarkas Force Ghost

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    Apr 29, 2011
    star 5
    [face_rofl][face_rofl][face_rofl]

    On a serious note, I hope this show isn't treated like TCW sometimes is on this board, with Filoni getting the blame for things we knew from interviews specifically weren't his idea. But that's probably a very high hope.
  17. anakinfansince1983 Chosen One

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    Mar 4, 2011
    star 8
    I'll own to making the mistake of blaming Filoni for the Barriss Offee fiasco which was not his idea. But at the same time, his attitude in the To Catch a Jedi commentary didn't lend itself to absolvency either.

    But, if he can avoid pet character promotion in this series, I may never bad-mouth the man again.
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  18. Dark Lord Tarkas Force Ghost

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    Apr 29, 2011
    star 5
    They seem to be going for an ensemble thing, so I don't think we will get the obvious we're-supposed-to-see-the-story-through-this-character's-eyes thing like with Ahsoka again.
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  19. rdhight Jedi Grand Master

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    Apr 8, 2014
    star 3
    I voted producers on the theory that the writers won't be making the big decisions on a show like this. Writers will be to blame for bad dialogue, but not story or character issues.
    Last edited by rdhight, May 13, 2014
  20. Theo333 Jedi Grand Master

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    Mar 29, 2011
    star 2
  21. moonjump05 Jedi Grand Master

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    Dec 14, 2013
    star 2
  22. Darkslayer Force Ghost

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    Mar 26, 2013
    star 4
    Does that include bringing back Plo Koon? He is a Jedi Master, and we never saw him die :p
  23. Robimus Force Ghost

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    Jul 6, 2007
    star 5
  24. JackG Force Ghost

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    Aug 15, 2011
    star 4
  25. Darth Eddie Force Ghost

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    May 14, 2013
    star 4
    Not Filoni, that other guy, who's not Filoni. Yeah, THAT guy! That guy sucks.
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