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PT Who would win, Dooku or Palpatine?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by Dark Ferus, Aug 11, 2016.

  1. Dark Ferus

    Dark Ferus Chosen One star 8

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    We know that Palpatine is one of the most powerful characters in the films. However, we don't actually know whether he is more powerful than Count Dooku. I've been wondering which one of them is more powerful. I think that Dooku would beat Palpatine in lightsaber combat (he's had 20 years more experience) but Palpatine has a stronger use of the dark side. That also makes me wonder if Count Dooku could have beaten Mace Windu, because we see that Mace can beat Palpatine.
     
  2. sith_rising

    sith_rising Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Dooku would have been like a worm in an eagle's claw, to quote Pai Mei.
     
  3. Torib

    Torib Jedi Master star 2

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    Palpatine beat Yoda, and Yoda beat Dooku. Therefore Palpatine beats Dooku.

    Also, great Pai Mei quote, sith_rising
     
  4. Dandelo

    Dandelo SW and Film Music Interview Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    if it was no hold barred including force powers: Palpatine

    a straight forward duel with no force powers: I'd say Dooku.

    (only going from movies here)
     
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  5. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Really? I think Palpatine would wipe the floor with him personally.

    Mace vs Dooku would have been something to see though.

    Although it is entirely left to our own interpretation, I think it is implied by the ROTS novelisation and script that Palpatine could beat Mace in a straight fight. He had more use for Mace than wanting simply to kill him without Anakin present.
     
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  6. Master_Rebado

    Master_Rebado Chosen One star 6

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    Palpatine easily.
     
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  7. Conkhead_12

    Conkhead_12 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    It's obvious isn't it. Steve would win. Easily. Dooku knows he is no match for Steve's power. Even Dooku is the best swordsmen of his time, the reason that Palps is not on that list is, he's supposed to be the senator, is he? He shouldn't come and show off theb say I'm a Sith lord.
    With the force: Palps would take 1 minute to slay Dooku.
    Without the force other than to predict saber blows: Palps, 2 minutes
     
  8. HevyDevy

    HevyDevy Force Ghost star 5

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    Steve? You mean Sheev?
     
  9. Conkhead_12

    Conkhead_12 Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Yes
     
  10. Darth Formidious

    Darth Formidious Jedi Master star 4

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    Palpatine could kill Dooku just by thinking about it (even from many light years away):

     
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  11. The Legions of Lettow

    The Legions of Lettow Jedi Master star 5

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    Anakin beat Dooku, Dooku twice beat Kenobi, Anakin beats Kenobi.
     
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  12. Huttese 101

    Huttese 101 Sam Witwer Enthusiast star 7

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    Palpy would win times 1 trillion. No contest.
     
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  13. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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    Dooku would probably make a decent fight of it right up until the point Sidious gets bored and decides to finish it - and does so. Quibbles like 'powers or no powers' would not mean anything to Sidious either, anyone who told him force lightning was banned would promptly receive 1.21 gigawatts of Dark Side to the face. Pretty much the only being in either trilogy who could beat Palpatine in a fight was Yoda, and he didn't quite manage it.
     
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  14. Deliveranze

    Deliveranze Force Ghost star 6

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    Me, of course. I am more powerful than any Sith Lord has ever dreamed of. And I'm doing it for you. To wreck you.
     
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  15. jakobitis89

    jakobitis89 Jedi Master star 4

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  16. Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid

    Jedi_Sith_Smuggler_Droid Force Ghost star 6

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    As so many have already said and shown great evidence to support - Dooku wouldn't stand a chance against Palpatine. But Dooku must have believed he would someday have the power to overthrow Palpatine - even if Palpatine didn't.

    What always grabbed me is a line in Revenge of the Sith when Palpatine tells Yoda - "Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us." It seems like the Emperor believed Vader will succeed him someday and the pride and encouragement he showed toward Anakin could have been real.
     
  17. Dandelo

    Dandelo SW and Film Music Interview Host star 10 VIP - Game Host

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    o_O you didn't obviously think I meant the two would have a "right lets go through some ground rules first" did you? I obviously meant if force powers didn't exist.

    From my own observation from watching the films (excluding quotes from actors, Lucas, Gillard etc) Dooku is a precise swordsman and skilled in all areas of saber combat.

    Palpatine is slower and rather sloppy (yes this is due to McDiarmid's uneasiness with using swords as an actor but I have to go what is on screen when I'm watching.

    so my point/opinion still remains Dooku would win if the force didn't exist IMO.
     
  18. Lazy_Ewok

    Lazy_Ewok Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Dooku was alright as a character but I think that Palpatine would win easily.