Who's related to who?

Why is there a difference in epII and Return of the Jedi of who Luke's uncle and aunt are? In Return, Obi-Wan tells Luke that "When your father left, he didn't know that your mother was pregnant.Your mother and I knew he would find out eventually, but we wanted to keep you both as safe as possible, for as long as possible. So I took you to live with my brother Owen on Tatooine... and your mother took Leia to live as the daughter of Senator Organa on Alderaan."
Now, in epII, Anikin goes looking for his mother and meets Owen Lars, his step brother...how is that possible? Why would Obi-Wan take Luke back to the planet Anikin was from and not only live with Anikin's step brother, but not change Luke's last name...if they were trying to keep Luke a secret? And why was Leia's last name changed to Organa?

 

Luke was allowed to keep the Skywalker name so he would have a reason to want to redeem it when he found out who his father was.

Leia was the adopted daughter of Bail Organa, so it only makes sense that her last name would be changed.

 

Obi never says in the film that owen was his brother

 

Shmi ---> Anakin

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Cliegg ---> Owen

Therefore, Shmi has Anakin, marries Clieg who already had Owen, therefore being related with different parents, making them step brothers.

I think Bib answered the rest.

 

Uh...DarthBaker? Are you feelin' alright, man? Because that line was never in the film.

 

It was in the novelisation of RotJ, and (correct me if I'm wrong) in the screenplay as well. It just never made the final cut for the movie.

 

I believe he was reading from the novelization.

Edit: Bah. Defeated.

 

You know guys, theres more to the story than whats in the movies. Although the book was written by James Kahn, it was authorized by Lucas. There is alot of little details in these books that aren't in the movies. Like in the next movie, we are going to see Mon Mothma.I know in The Return of the Jedi she was never described as anything but a Rebel leader. But in the book she was described as a senior member of the Republic, a member of the high council. My point is that there is more to the story than meets the eye.

 

I posted a thread on Owen Lars & OB1 in the CT forum and the response I got was that the novelisation was wrong and that it would one day be changed. If you want to look at it look for subject "Owen Lars".

Who knows? Have a nice day

 

There are numerous differences between the novels and the films and which supercedes the other is the essence of what is an is not canon, which there are other forums for.

As to the question at hand, who's related to whom, Owen is obviously not Obi-Wan's brother, regardless of what the novel says. Owen is Anakin's step-brother through his mom's marriage to Cliegg Lars.

 

Owen and Obi-Wan can still be brothers, just not biologically or via marriage.

 

That may be true, Baker, but Owen is no longer related to Obi-Wan in any way whatsoever. That dialogue was never in the film, and was invalidated by Episode II. Sincce it was never in the film, there is no contradiction.

 

"Owen and Obi-Wan can still be brothers, just not biologically or via marriage."

Um, then how? Blood-brothers?

Blues Brothers?

Will Star Wars become "Oh Brother, where art thou?"

(Sorry... )

 

The ROTJ novelization is notoriously unreliable. It also says that Yoda never met Anakin. I'm pretty sure that's incorrect.

The ROTJ novelization is a glimpse of where GL's mind once was, not where it is now.

 

Yes, the novelization of RoTJ has a reference to them being brothers. However, this should not be taken too much in the literal since, as it is not actually a contradiction to anything established in AotC.

Rather, it is entirely possible that, through Obi-Wan's relationship with Anakin as his Padawan (and Owen being Anakin's step-brother), that the two formed a friendship equal to that of "brothers". This would be furthered by Obi-Wan's entrusting Owen with Luke.


Ken Kenobi- And you have a nice day

 

Such a relationship would have to be established on film. Which I doubt. Those lines were cut for a reason.

 

Who says it has to be established on film? Plenty can happen to Owen and Obi-Wan in the 20 years between EP3 and ANH.

 

I dunno Bib, the reaction Owen had at the mention of Ben's name doesn't seem to be that of recognition of somebody you once considered your brother...

 

Personally, I don't know why GL decided to change it so that Obi-Wan and Owen aren't brothers in the movies. To me, that makes more sense than having Anakin and Owen be step brothers, because then it seems like Anakin would at least think to stop by his relatives house, wouldn't he?

But no, in the movies, Obi-Wan and Owen aren't related.

-sj loves kevin spacey

 

Besides, Anakin and Owen being step-brothers gives Luke a reason to call Owen uncle.