ST Who's The Baddie?

How is it "less advanced"? It worked.

Anyway, what evidence is there that Adam Driver is Kylo Ren?

 

Is this a serious question? A comm link is essentially a walkie talkie. Are you claiming that's more advanced than, say, an entire computer that you hold in your hand - such as an IPhone? In any event, you're getting caught up in the weeds. The point is that some tech in the OT seems rather low-fi than it does in other sci-fi films. The shaky holos, the comm links, the simple early CAD compter sims (death star plans), etc. This is all a function of the era they were conceived in - late 70s, early 80s. But I like it, and want it to continue. Nostalgia? Sure, probably. But I don't care!

 

I seriously doubt I'm the only person on this board who can say this but I can remember a time when a telephone was just a telephone and that's all we need it it to be. We didn't need a phone that could also play music or movies or download files. All we needed it to do was let us talk to someone in another location in real time. And that's what it did and that's what a comm link did.

I swear there are times I think the Amish have the right idea where technology is concerned.

 

Yes, it is a serious question. How is it "less advanced"? And what is it "less advanced" than? When is it "unreliable"?

Shakey holograms, etc. are not ineffectual and Qui-Gon's commlink was able to transmit readings of blood - my iPhone can't do that.

The commlinks are communication devices - not supposed to be computers.

Well, I don't think I'd agree with the Amish bit, but the rest? Yes.

 

Right. The point is they are clunky. That's it. And I like that clunkiness.

 

You're not the only person. I was born in the 70s too!

 

Clunky? No, they are quite small.

Do you mean not not bright, shiny and smooth like most futuristic devices?

 

Largeness is not a necessary condition for clunkiness. Clunky also means: "clumsy in style, form, or execution." And yes, compared to the shininess and smoothiness of most futuristic devices (the comparison I made originally).

 

That definition I agree with - yes, the tech of the GFFA can be clunky, taking functionality over style (though still being cool )

However, they are "not advanced" or "unreliable".

 

You would have made an excellent Sith Lord, my dear. Alas, they don't seem to be hiring anymore!

 

For this, I require another explanation.

 

Your delight in torture? A mild form of torture your style of discourse may seem. But it's still torture!

 

I don't follow. What "torture"?

 

See: Disapproval, A Chorus of, "The painful, painful variety," TheForce.Net Jedi Council Forums, Who's the Baddie? pp. 1010.

 

You made the comment, you really should be the one to explain and not rely on others.

 

So the baddie is going to be lo-fi technology?

 

Everyone will be using those old mobile phones the size of bricks, which also double as weapons.

 

So I’d agree that this has always been a relatively difficult one to juggle... You have the ubiquitous Jedi, in the time of the Old Republic and up until events in ROTS, protecting the galaxy and performing incredible feats... and in the space of circa 20 years they go from that to not only being mostly forgotten, but considered “ancient”. However, I think this is a conceit that was made problematic in the OT itself, by depicting the Jedi as being long forgotten, but by having Obi-Wan and Yoda still in play (and now we have other Jedi in Rebels). I suppose, looking at it pragmatically, Hitler and the Nazi’s had managed to expunge Germany of both contemporary and historic Jewish writing/culture in quite a short time frame. If the Nazi’s had remained in power for a generation, I think it’s highly likely that knowledge of certain races/cultures/faiths would have been extinguished from public consciousness completely.

 

I don't remember there being any character in the franchise that didn't know about the Jedi.

 

We've cracked it! Uber is Darth Motorolus!

 

I agree. I don't think there is a character who states "what's a Jedi?". And as Luke knew what a Jedi Knight was back on Tatooine, we can assume that there's a common knowledge of them amongst the populace of the galaxy. But there's certainly a strong inference that the Jedi are seen as something belonging to the past/of another time.

 

Right. I think being wiped out en masse and completely discredited by the current governing body of the universe 19 years before A New Hope takes place will definitely do that, make people talk about Jedi as a thing of the past. Because they were. Imagine if a modern religion died out completely and very publicly in 1996. Suddenly coming across a devoted follower of that religion in 2015 would be seem very bizarre.

I'm curious as to how much the general public knows about Darth Vader's death and the end of Palpatine's reign at the battle of Endor. And what, if anything, most people think of when they hear the word "Jedi" some 30 years after Vader's death.

 

Such is the destiny of Tom Cruise.