ST Who's The Baddie?

If you have a problem with me, then say so. These vague passive-aggressive insults are the tools of the weakling.

 

You see... there you go again with that dogmatic approach. I'm not trying to attack you, I'm simply stating a truth i.e. that I take your little swipes at Star Wars films with a pinch of salt given your barometer of quality re. films of a similar ilk. I'm sure you feel the same. It's akin to criticising someones musical tastes whilst pouring over your Christina Aguilera collection.

 

No I don't. Someone can listen to Christina Aguilera and appreciate opera too. Or eat a burger once in a while and still be a gourmet.
I like some really trashy films like Machete and some more sophisticated ones like the Godfather or the Pianist. I don't go and tell myself "No I can't like that because it's below my standards."

 

They could do a lot with a back story like this. Explaining why Plagueis chose Shmi to experiment on and the creation of Anikin to be more susceptible to the dark side of the force.
And then the question: was Anikin relay meant to destroy the sith and bring balance to the force or was he meant to destroy the jedi give the sith the balance of power.
This could change the whole perception we have on Anikin/Vader and the Skywalkers. He was destined to become the great sith lord but the plan hatched by Plagueis was ultimately undermined by the unforeseen love for Luke.

 

This isn't a debate about the merits of 'high art versus low art' theory (which I'm more than happy to discuss), this is about you being selective in your judgement process and your engagement methods i.e. your input into any conversation about the PT comes across in a dogmatic (and to use your term), 'passive-aggressive' manner. I'm more than happy to accept that you don't like certain films... I even understand why the prequels leave some cold... but it's really that pervasive and unbending judgmental manner which I personally find to be somewhat distasteful. It makes engaging in any discussion concerning the PT a real challenge.

 

Its not like I only dislike the flicks, I also dislike the messages presented in them. If I had children, I wouldn't show the prequels to them.

 

What are those 'messages' that you dislike?

 

That has nothing to do with this thread.

 

Neither do the swipes at the prequels, but I'm at least willing to try and understand why you feel moved to.

 

This kind of sounds like it could be one of the Episode VII baddie's lines.

Darth Cummerbund: These vague passive-aggressive insults are the tools of the weakling.

Jenia Solo: See my mother if you want diplomacy. I've always taken more after my father.

 

Hmmm..I'm inspired! The baddie of Ep. 7 should be Darth Tangent. Whenever the heroes try to engage him on a subject, he manipulates them into a petty opinion argument and whilst they're distracted, continues his evil-doings.

 

Thrawn would be pretty bad ass.

 

Come now my SW chums. Can't we all agree that we love Star Wars in general?

And that Darth Plagueis will be the baddie...

 

Here here!

 

Of course he'll be.

 

Be quiet you dogmatic little snake. Your opinions aren't worth anything because everyone knows that JJ's Star Trek films were garbage. For example, only 95% of critics on RT gave the first ST trash a positive review while the 2nd trash only earned a piddly 87%. Everyone knows TPM and AOTC, objectively speaking, did much better. Just because their RT scores were much lower (57% and 67%) doesn't mean anything when a couple of people have strong opinions that make that actual data look much clearer to them.

 

Oh noes according to a website J.J. Trek is 19% better than my favorite post 2000 film. I must go and rethink my life.

 

It's not a website's opinion. It's the informed opinion of a couple hundred critics. That's what we call objective data when it comes to film. No one is asking anyone to rethink their life, but it's silly for someone to argue that the ST will be worse than the PT because there was something wrong with JJ Trek. The data goes against the solipsism.

 

So how low a figure does this "objective data" have to be before a viewer can voice criticism without it being deemed "silly"? I would hate to appear silly on a forum dedicated to space wizard movies.

 

Et tu, Dra?

I must now also go and rethink my life.

 

Dra--- I don't know if you're being serious or if your tongue is planted firmly in your cheek... I'm scared

 

We really don't need this objective/subjective argument to take place, again.
Also, this thread is to discuss who the bad guy will be, not what movies were or were not good.

 

OK, just wanna get this out there. I apologise if I contributed towards any ill feelings. Not my intentions, I was just having a laugh.

To me we're all SW buds here

Plagueis is still the baddie though

 

My tongue is always cheeky.