ST Who's The Baddie?

Are people really aware that his breathing sound is because his body is roasted?

 

He did let selected people see how scarred and reliant on machines he is. TESB.

 

Nah that was just an IMAX system he was using in ESB.

 

Over in the NSA forum I posted this and it's something I've been wondering for a while; perhaps I'm just overlooking something? If not, it could have an impact on our "Who's the Baddie?" discussion.

What makes everybody so sure that Palpatine didn't learn how to cheat death from his master?

Who died that Palpatine would've saved if he could? Padme's passing meant Anakin was all his. Everybody else was a meaningless pawn. (It could be argued that Palpatine might have had a hand in keeping Anakin alive through all of his burns/pain.) After looking it up on Wookiepedia (died at 86 in RotJ... putting him at about 50 in Episode I) I guess they were able to assemble a reasonable timeline but from his appearance alone in TPM, I always assumed that he would've been ancient by RotJ and (after hearing his conversation with Anakin) I thought that maybe he was able keep himself alive far longer than what's natural through those powers.

I haven't read the Plageous novel but I imagine immortality through manipulation of the Force and other unnatural methods doesn't prevent murder, which is why neither could keep themselves from dying. That said, if they really did have these kinds of powers, who's to say they stopped after death? Palpatine force ghost has already been mentioned but from my understanding, the master was much more experimental/exploitative when it came to the Force than his apprentice, so it's entirely possible in my mind that he could, after a long journey, find his way back. Tan-Wessel brought up one such possibility in another thread (although I would go a different route after the third point):

 

Vader was always a zealot at heart. He carried himself in an executive fashion as well. He, uh, never was the popular of managers.

 

But he always got the job done, and that's all that matters.

 

Some people are doers.

 

And some people are doees.

 

I wonder if the villain will have transformations

 

Maybe he's a "robot in disguise"

 

If those leaked titles have any truth to them, the Sith will be back. That may seem obvious to some, but not all seem to think they can or should come back.

I'm still pulling for Darth Urn.

 

That's because Palpatine was cutting off his air supply.

 

Non-Force-users can be a threat. Jango battled Obi-Wan, Battle Droids held the entire Jedi Order hostage, Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon had to escape from the Droidekas, the Rancor would have eaten Luke if it wasn't for the stone that Luke threw at the switch, etc.

 

What leaked titles?? Where??

 

@DarthChizuk -- gracias!

 

I wouldn't mind seeing a necromancer like Plagueis raising a Skelo-Trooper Army of all the dead clones as part of his unnatural abilities. Especially at the end of Episode IX as part of a final confrontation. Or, part of a dead world or true Underworld. Palpatine's new home, perhaps. It simply reminds me of Ray Harryhausen and the 'Sinbad' movies of the late 1950's, the kind that Lucas reveres. It's also is evocative of the Battle Droid look and could be an interesting foreshadowing. Since the clones fought the droids, it might be fun to turn it around. Who are the droids now? Kind of thing. It's pretty over the top, but what the HELL...get it?

 

Are you suggesting that a threat = a big Bad?

The mynocks would have killed Han and Leia if they had been allowed to suck on them for a few hours. Maybe they should be the new villain?

Personally, I choose sunburn.

 

An intelligent threat = a big Bad.

 

Well, that discounts everything in your list.

By the way, where you been? The forum lacks your presence.

Darth Chiznuk: I agree that the faith vs. science trope is all perfectly set up for the ST. Even if we don't get Plagueis, I'd love a villain just as you were describing. Someone making force sensitive hybrid abominations, sort of like Splice.

Give me my Force Monsters, JJ!

 

What about Jango?

Thanks. I finally got a life.

 

Does that mean a job?

I don't think Jango was particularly smart. He went out like a fool in AOTC.

PS: The Next Star Wars Villain?

 

Well I could certainly see him in Ep VII and he definately as Benerdict Cumberbatch's cheekbones...

 

Sherlock in Gothic drag. Sure, why not?