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TFA Who's The Baddie?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Sequel Trilogy (Released Films)' started by fishtailsam, Oct 31, 2012.

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  1. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    Believe whatever you want to believe.
    Those boys were treacherous but none of them could create life. Well Palpy did keep his spirit alive for DE so who knows?
     
  2. Immortiss

    Immortiss Force Ghost star 5

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    Let's not bring logic into this thread.:p
     
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  3. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Please, you can't compare random names of planets to something as intriguing as "witches" or the "Nightsisters". No way you can drop those names without further explanation. That would be like dropping the term "midichlorians" into TPM without any further exposition about them.

    Imagine that: "He has the highest concentration of midichlorians I've seen in a lifeform. It's possible he was conceived by them".

    ...& then no other mention. Audiences would be thinking "Wtf?" for the rest of the film.
     
  4. Odolwa

    Odolwa Jedi Knight star 3

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    Everyone's reason for not liking something is always "The audience would be confused", In all honesty they probably wouldn't care. No one knew what jedi were, clone wars, Who darth vader was and many other things when ANH came out. Did people leave the theater outraged "I cant follow this plot!!"? nah. And im sure most still don't know what midichlorians are nor care. But i hope witches don't have much of a role, I find them extremely boring.
     
  5. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    Do you find Naga Sadow's sorcery interesting?
     
  6. Odolwa

    Odolwa Jedi Knight star 3

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    Ancient sith stuff always interest me, Just something about talzin and the night sisters i don't like.
     
  7. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    You didn't like Kruge?
     
  8. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Ben did explain what the Jedi were & it was explored on screen. Vader was a character that we could observe. TCW was some "old war" in the past. Midichlorians were explained to Anakin being a proxy to the audience.
    The point is you can't name drop something as out there & strange in a new SW film as "witches" or Nightsisters without offering at least a similar explanation to the audience. For us fans it would be fine. To the average moviegoer it may frustrate & make them wonder if there was a movie in between that they missed.
     
  9. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    The Nightsisters were wiped out and should remain so. Even if Talzin or Asajj returned to Dathomir to restore their order, I can't imagine that they wouldn't be hunted down and killed by the Empire, anyway.
     
  10. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    It's already been shown in the Star Wars saga that the reason for a war to be fought can be manipulated by someone with an agenda of their own. If that agenda were simply destruction, I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard for the perpetrator to once again stir up some justification for the parties involved to go into battle.
     
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  11. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    Whatever the case, I'm all for ancient Sith and their powers, whether it be the Corsair, amulets, and/or Sithspawn.
    Massassi!
     
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  12. Darth_Pevra

    Darth_Pevra Force Ghost star 6

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    Also a nice possibility, even though I would like the villains to work together, form a rather unstable alliance.
    Unity gives strength and strength makes for a credible threat.
     
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  13. RobShanti

    RobShanti Jedi Master star 4

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    Why can't the Nightsisters be "explained" or "explored on screen" or include "a character that we could observe" or be "explained ... to the audience" like in all these examples? With the proper storytelling, any and all of these can be done equally as quickly.

    That said, though, I'd rather not see the Nightsisters in the ST. I don't know who I'm pulling for as the villain, but I'm willing to wait and see, and reserve judgment for when I do.
     
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  14. Fastback

    Fastback Jedi Padawan star 1

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    I do believe that in TCW the night sister mother Talzin was defeated by Mace Windu or Ja Ja Binks lol but she was not killed. She could play a role along with Darth Maul who also lived come out in ST or Rebels most likely we shall see.
     
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  15. I_Love_Scotch

    I_Love_Scotch Jedi Knight star 2

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    I hope they kill off Darth Maul in Rebels and don't leave his fate open. It was bad enough that they brought him back. That's the only part of TCW I dislike thus far otherwise the rest is awesome. Hopefully the Inquisitor or Darth Vader give him a permanent dirt nap.
     
  16. Fastback

    Fastback Jedi Padawan star 1

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    Yea I was not a big fan of Maul coming back but his story in TCW was not bad but Palpatine did leave him to use him later. I can only imagine he would be in Rebels and killed off there.
     
  17. LunarMoth

    LunarMoth Jedi Master star 4

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    I understood that. My reply was to Downunder's post as well. I just thought I'd include you in the fun....:cool:
     
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  18. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    Keep in mind that when the apprentice kills the master, the apprentice replaces the master as the ultimate evil. Otherwise whoever started the Hundred-Year Darkness would be the ultimate evil.
     
  19. Darth Downunder

    Darth Downunder Chosen One star 6

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    Absolutely, they can be. Just that some people seemed to think that they can just be mentioned & it can be assumed the audience will know about them already.
     
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  20. Mystery Roach

    Mystery Roach Force Ghost star 4

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    I don't think anybody thinks that. Only that it isn't difficult to catch the audience up on something that some of them already know about. Unless you're talking about the entirety of the EU, but that's a topic for another thread.
     
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  21. Darth PJ

    Darth PJ Force Ghost star 5

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    I agree - virtually anything can be explained within context. If the Nightsisters, or similar, were to appear... then I assume the writers would just provide some exposition as to their delineation from Sith and their general purpose/objective within the ST etc.
     
  22. Darkslayer

    Darkslayer Force Ghost star 6

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  23. plaidphoenix

    plaidphoenix Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    I think I've discovered who the baddie will be....

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  24. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    I love the idea of the ghosts of Yoda and Palpatine giving opposite advice.
     
  25. purplerain

    purplerain Jedi Knight star 4

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    Is it possible that Plagueis can reassemble the atoms that his body is made of?
     
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