Whos the most powerful dark-sider under Palpitines rule?

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  1. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    This should be a poll but oh well, personaly I say Blackhole.
  2. Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master

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  3. Amidala Starkiller Force Ghost

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  4. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    Why Vader? I think its black hole mainly because of the way nobody saw him and he remainds hidden.
  5. Bib Fortuna Twi'lek Jedi Youngling

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  6. Jarik Jedi Master

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    You made black hole up didn't you?
  7. Wedge 88 Jedi Grand Master

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    No, he didn't. I know exactly who Blackhole is. And I don't agree that he was that powerful.

    Vader was the Choosen One. He had more power than Yoda.

    But excluding Vader, I would say Jerec. Hes mentioned as almost rivialing Vader in power. Valiento can back that up with quotes, I'm sure. ;)
  8. Jarik Jedi Master

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    Well, who's black hole then?
  9. -Vergere- Jedi Master

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  10. Genghis12 Manager Emeritus

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    Lumiya. Her machinations accomplished what Vader was unable to do. A Sith Lord to beat all Sith Lords, it was her plan which facilitated Palpatine's final destruction. She was taught by both Palpatine and Vader. That is, she had the sum total of all three, while each of the others had something less.

    For a very short time, Jerec. While he was tapped into the Valley of the Jedi, he had a fraction of infinity - which is to say a whole lot of freakin' power.
  11. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    Read Gamer 5 for info on Black Hole. That or Classic Star Wars.
  12. Tahiri_2 Jedi Knight

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    Vader.... uh how many where there?
  13. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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    He was a imperial dark side prohet who gave up the dark side to be intellegince director befor Isard. He had a star destroyer and had unlimited acsess to holonet. His orgin is a mistery.
  14. chissdude10 Jedi Youngling

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  15. mjerome3 Jedi Grand Master

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    Darth Vader. If not him, I'd say Joruus C'baoth.
  16. Cowboy_Jedi Jedi Youngling

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    Darth Vader, no doubt about it. Jerec was the main villian in Dark Forces II: Jedi Knight.


    ~Cowboy
  17. Cypher18 Jedi Master

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  18. Mateo Jedi Master

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    In terms of sheer Dark Side power and skill here they are:
    1.Darth Vader.
    2.Tremayne.
    3.Jerec.
    4.Joruus C'Baoth.
    5.Kaddan.
    6.Blackhole.
    7.Aldric Brandl.
    8.Sedriss.
    9.Hethrir.
    10.Beldorian the Hutt.
    11.Jeng Droga.
    12.Arden Lyn.
    13.Lumiya.
    14.Jedgar.
    15.Sarcev Quest.
    16.Mara Jade.
    17.Roganda Ismaren.
    18.Maarek Stele.
    19.the Emperors hand in the Rebellion Era Sourcebook.
    20.Xecr Nist.
  19. RNolan Jedi Knight

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    Genghis12 I think your interpretation of Lumiyas power is based on faulty logic.

    Simply being taught by two great masters does not make one a great master in and of oneself. If I have a genuis to tutor me in mathematics and another to tutor me in Greek, it does not follow that I am myself a genius, nor a genius when it comes to either or both subjects.

    Yours
  20. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    Jerec was said to have powers that rivalved vader in bit of pregame backhistory in the manual and strategy guide of JK. It's valid piece of literature.

    When he was in the valley though his powers rivaled that of palpatines, and could have made him the most powerful force user ever.

    Jerec's stats in the RPG, are set as more powerful than tremayne, but getting up there with vader's stats(The only diff, vader has that whole Dark Lord of the sith prestidge to fall back into).
  21. Quiwan Jedi Master

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    Vader, no question and no one even close. He is the choosen one and why would Palpatine let a more powerful person sit on the sidelines? He/She would be less effective there and he couldn't keep his eye on them.

    As far as Jerek (or any other game character) I'll never except how strong they claim to be. They were only given such ridiculous stories to make the games more interesting... who wants to play a game where the characters bio reads: "not very strong at all, pretty weak actually."
  22. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    considering jerec has been written into more EU sources(novels/children's book/RPG EU sourcebook, etc) beyond a game. What is said is just as valid as any other sources. To deny that is just denieing the truth.
  23. Rebecca191 Jedi Grand Master

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    Huh? What children's book was Jerec in? ?[face_plain]
  24. Valiento Jedi Grand Master

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    One of the Galaxy of fear books.
  25. Lonewolf89 Jedi Grand Master

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