FF:QLD Who's up for Star Trek: Nemesis?

It's been recieiving mediocre reviews generally. not good, but not bad either.

I'm not terribly optimisitic myself. I'll be seeing it on Saturday night, with my family...a Birthday treat

 

I thought it was brilliant!

 

So did I!

and judging by the audience reaction, so did everyone else there.

 

I thought it was one of the best yet!

 

Better than Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country?

 

6 is still the best.

Nemesis is pretty damn close though

 

It was pretty good. The villian was a tad cliche though. TWINE, anyone?

 

What, because they were both bald?

 

Well no, I mean the whole impaling thing. And the slowly dying thing. The origin of the villian was fairly original, I guess.

EDIT: Oops, spoiler.

 

Did anyone else laugh in the opening scene? Kind of reminded me of some other movies...

 

He he maybe.

How far back in Trek canon do we find out about Remus? When I read all those books years ago it never mentioned it... Perhaps I just find two planets that mimic ancient earth history a bit... odd.

 

Remus is new

And just remember Universal Translator, The Romulans don't call themselves Romulans in their own language.

 

Righty-ho.

 

*GoobaFish reads the thread, sees keywords 'Remus', 'spoiler', 'ending', decides to not read this thread until he's seen the movie.*

 

Oh, poor Gooba.

 

I actually wasn't expecting too much so really liked Nemesis. I thought it was almost as good as First Contact, which I still like the best of the whole series.

It really wasn't the storyline I felt it was going to be about so it was a nice surprise and a few scenes, like the first, made me feel really good about the characters again.

*****spoilers! below******




I was a bit disappointed with the repetition of Picard trying to save everyone from some weapon of mass destruction though. Happened in Generations and Insurrection, but it is a good ending. And my friends and I laughed about how they all take 7 minutes to activate and gets stopped at 3 seconds before, but then, THAT is an action movie.

Favourite bits:
First scene; the land vehicle exploding out of the Captains yacht; Space battle.

Overall I really liked it more than I thought I would, and it made me really excited to buy TNG season 6 today! woohooooo.

Live Long and don't kill the trekkies.

 

Actually, it's a long established fact that Romulus had a sister planet. In an original series episode called "Balance of Terror" I think, they show on a chart a nearby planet or system called 'Romii' (which is apaprently a mistake according to some sources).

Diane Duane (or Diane Carey, Diane someone at least) wrote some books chronicling the background of the Rommies, I can't rememebr the name of the book, but it is one of the few Trek books I really recommend reading. It may have been called "The Romulan way", and every second chapter talks about Romulan history, while every other one is an espionage type story with Dr McCoy.

 

The books aren't canon.

 

In Star Trek I don't think you can call anything cannon as there are way too many loop holes in the series as it is. I know our fav Space Opera has a lot but Trekkies have to put up with a hundred times the amount...

Might explain why they tend to be a little strange actually

 

I know the books aren't canon, but some oughta be, because they go into details which we will never see in the show.

I saw the movie today (I was going to see it last night but circumstances proved otherwise). I liked it a lot! There were some GREAT scenes hey!!!!

 

Well if you say so.

 

OOOOOH yeah!!!! A lot of nice FX hey grieyls

 

I don't really count FX as anything special these days as It can be done fairly easily now. Hell even your average TV program is laden with it so it's not that difficult for any studio to produce and hell of lot cheaper. Though I will admit that the higher production values do produce more and more realistic effects. However being that there is so much of it around I am no longer dazzled by it as easily as I was.

As such I seem to be steering more towards how well the story was excuted when I see a movie now, and in that lies the problem. I would have enjoyed Nemesis a lot more I believe had I been in the mood for that type of story as I can't see any fault in it on a technical point of view. However seeing that I was not in a Star Trek frame of mind at the time I got less out of it than I normally would have. This is true for all films for me these days, though a few will still "wow me" if it manages to push the correct buttons no matter what mood I am in. Very few films in the last couple of years have actually done this. Therefore I doubt I will see it again untill I am in the right frame of mind and maybe then I will appreciate it a lot more.

 

Saw it last week, first time online since.

I enjoyed it greatly, although my fave TNG movie is First Contact. Good to see Wesley, Guinan, Ro(?) cameoing.

As for the Picard-Mass-distruction thingy, it didn't bother me. Trek Movies have always seemed to center around the Captain with 2 major B-stories and the ensemble adding to the richness of the story.

As for Janeway an Admiral? Yeah, I have no issues with that, it is assumed IMO that Picard would have knocked back many Promotions to stay with the Starfleet Flagship. It isn't an alien prospect.

The Wedding arc was good, enough lighter moments to balance it out ("Mister Troi", anyone?).
I knew Spiner wanted to kill off Data, but B4 ("before", geddit?)... hmm :\ I dunno about that, sure you have a new guy wanting the humanity bit but neah, it isn't Data. But good to see more of the Geordi/Data friendship.

The Chase scene on the planet, good.
The jokes from B4 cutely echoed fan comments over the years, Picard's baldnes etc.

I enjoyed it, it is Star Trek I have no choice to no like it, do I?

 

Remember that Kirk told Picard "Never let them promote you".