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Discussion Why all the EU Hatred?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by JediMJS, Nov 1, 2012.

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  1. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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  2. Dynoblaze

    Dynoblaze Jedi Knight star 1

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    Oh they'll be $$$. Probably not "blockbuster" though. Star Wars is gonna be just another "that's still around?" franchise. They'll release movies, a good portion will see them but the fanbase will be broken, there won't be a solid core to help them through tough times. So then in 15 years we'll have the inevitable reboot/retelling of the entire Saga just like "Planet of the Apes" "Robocop""Star trek" "Total Recall."

    It's a pattern in Hollywood: Create good film->Sequel/Prequel the hell out of it till everyone rolls their eyes and $ goes down->REBOOT/REMAKE!!!!!!
     
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  3. Jedi_Lover

    Jedi_Lover Force Ghost star 5

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    So now I am hip. This just gets better and better.
     
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  4. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    Star Wars 7 won't underperform as badly as TRON: Legacy, however. John Carter failed - okay, but John Carter is a bunch of little-known pulp novels from waaaay back. TRON is an example of a broken fanbase. It did not live up to its repuation.
     
  5. Tim Battershell

    Tim Battershell Jedi Master star 5

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    One should remember that the word 'fan' is a contraction of 'fanatic'!

    I have had to link the Wiki article on Star Wars Canon to these forums several times recently, because people were posting claims that were far wide of the fact. That article was just an easy Google-search away!

    To me, a true fan would really know their subject.
     
  6. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This. They might consult the EU to see what has been done before, but if they want to go a certain direction with a character, death or losing a limb in some EU novel from 15 years ago is not going to stop them. EU authors have always known their stories might get contradicted down the road. This isn't going to be a sudden stake through their hearts. It is what it is.
     
  7. LawJedi

    LawJedi Jedi Master star 4

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    A true fan would know that an "official canon policy" is code language for "guys, please buy our tie-in material, it totally matters!"
     
  8. Cantina Bassist

    Cantina Bassist Jedi Knight star 2

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    No wonder so many "true fans" are virgins........
     
  9. Jedi_Lover

    Jedi_Lover Force Ghost star 5

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    Damn, I am no longer classified as a true fan.
     
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  10. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    EW JEDI_LOVER I DID NOT NEED TO KNOW THAT
     
  11. Jedi_Lover

    Jedi_Lover Force Ghost star 5

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    I have two sons...I didn't think it would come as a surprise! I am not Shmi!
     
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  12. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    OMG THAT MEANS THAT YOU DO NOT DO IMMACULATE CONCEPTION! EW
     
  13. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    Anyone noticed how "EU" can be pronounced "EW"?
     
  14. HL&S

    HL&S Magistrate Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Now where is Bib Fortuna Twi'lek?
     
  15. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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  16. Tim Battershell

    Tim Battershell Jedi Master star 5

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    Surprising, as they weren't that far off SW, as I recall - just planet bound. Was it badly made?

    Well, the original did come out in the days when real computers weren't kept at home....
     
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  17. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    Some Star Wars was inspired by John Carter, actually.
     
  18. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Also, issue 53 of the Marvel SW comic was an open homage/ripoff of John Carter.
     
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  19. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    Part of the reason I became interested in John Carter. Read a great WIRED article that educated me on John Carter's significance.
     
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  20. Asharak

    Asharak Jedi Master star 4

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    Well said.
     
  21. Kir Kanos 66

    Kir Kanos 66 Jedi Padawan

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    The Marvel #53 ref to John Carter is really good. I just re-read #53 & #54 earlier this year too.

    BTW - If everyone wants, I'll come up with a cool explanation to fit Splinter of the Mind's Eye with ESB too! It will be really gnarly.
     
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  22. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    Gnarly, dude.
     
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  23. Arawn_Fenn

    Arawn_Fenn Force Ghost star 7

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    Ood Bnar is really gnarly.
     
  24. TheNegotiationsWereShort

    TheNegotiationsWereShort Jedi Youngling

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    I think you're missing the point. Loudly and clearly. We're not talking about inclusion of EU content. The point is that if the filmmakers have a good idea, they shouldn't NOT do it simply because it would contradict EU. Deciding on whether to do an original plot based on whether it will be consistent with a 1996 short story is a bad move for a filmmaker.
     
  25. tekkamansoul

    tekkamansoul Jedi Knight star 1

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    This thread caused me to download the Barsoom omnibus. It's old enough to be public domain. Thanks guys.
     
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