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JCC Why are "The Critic's Top ten" hardly ever on?

Discussion in 'Community' started by VadersLaMent, Sep 9, 2012.

  1. VadersLaMent

    VadersLaMent Chosen One star 10

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    thus:

    Critics’ Top 10 Films of All Time
    10. 8 ½9. The Passion of Joan of Arc8. Man with a Movie Camera
    7. The Searchers
    6. 2001: A Space Odyssey
    5. Sunrise: A Song of Two Humans
    4. La Règle du jeu
    3. Tokyo Story
    2. Citizen Kane
    1. Vertigo

    In fact I have only seen 2001 on this list and the rest are never on cable. I relize there is perhaps some kind of business/ownership thing at work here, but why are these films so arre to see on cable?
     
  2. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    [​IMG]

    "Myth: It's only fair to pay for quality first-run movies. Fact: Most movies shown on cable get two stars or less, and are repeated ad nauseam."
     
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  3. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    Netflix. :p
     
  4. DantheJedi

    DantheJedi Jedi Master star 5

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    You know, it's so funny, nowadays movies and TV shows wouldn't even think of playing "devil's advocate" like that for music/movie/TV piracy, like that one The Oatmeal comic about trying to watch Game of Thrones.

    (Just saying).
     
  5. Ramza

    Ramza Administrator Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA VIP

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    That episode wasn't playing Devil's advocate - they made it pretty damn clear that Homer was in the wrong.
     
  6. darthhelinith

    darthhelinith Jedi Master star 5

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    Money relocating between pockets.

    Because I haven't seen any of those films and I'm not particularly interested in seeing any of them either.
     
  7. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    None of them are in HD. Most aren't in color. Some aren't in English.

    Networks don't play them because America wouldn't watch.
     
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  8. Aytee-Aytee

    Aytee-Aytee Jedi Master star 5

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    Snooki Boo Boo they are not.
     
  9. Rogue_Ten

    Rogue_Ten Chosen One star 7

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    because you touch yourself
     
  10. Darth Guy

    Darth Guy Chosen One star 10

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    I know Citizen Kane, The Searchers, and 2001 are on Blu-ray, so there should/could easily be HD transfers for TV broadcast. And every one of those films can be in HD.
     
  11. DarthIntegral

    DarthIntegral VIP star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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  12. epic

    epic Ex Mod star 8 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Where is that list from? Never seen Vertigo top these kind of lists before. Great move, but not best of all time.
     
  13. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    what
     
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  14. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Master star 5

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    What we have here, bacon, is an example of the kind of person who believes that a movie isn't in HD unless it was shot on "HD" cameras, even though film has as high to higher resolution than an "HD" camera.

    Also, these movies are not on cable very often because there is a limited audience for them. However, most of them play if you know where to look. TCM, for example.
     
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  15. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    That was more of my point.
    Some of the movies on this list are almost a century old. Most are over 50. You can't possibly say that an 85 year old B&W is equal to modern HD. No matter how much restoration it gets. Not to mention sound quality.

    If it's not new and exciting, most Americans aren't interested. If cable companies can get more viewers showing the latest Hollywood drivel they will. I'm not saying it's better, it's just the way it is.
     
  16. DarthLowBudget

    DarthLowBudget Jedi Master star 5

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    For what its worth, almost every single movie on that list actually exists in a stunning high-definition digital transfer, and that many of them rival and exceed, in visual quality, any movie shot on digital cameras to date.
     
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  17. Bacon164

    Bacon164 Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    there's a big part of me that really really hates George Lucas for shooting AOTC in a digital format. like reaaaaalllly hates him. this thread is one of the reasons why.
     
  18. EmpireForever

    EmpireForever Jedi Grand Master star 8

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    Why would you want to see these works of art on cable, where they'll be hacked to bits by consumerist propaganda and censored for your safety and the network's stringent schedule?

    Additionally, why would anyone still subscribe to this "service"?
     
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  19. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    From a non-American POV, those are barely on British TV either. I think I saw Citizen Kane on terrestrial once and Vertigo on Film4, but that's about it.
     
  20. Darth-Lando

    Darth-Lando Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    Ok, wasn't aware of that. Be that as it may though, the fact that most of them are in black and white probably has more to do with them not being on TV than whatever resolution they could be broadcast at.
     
  21. WIERD_GREEN_MAN

    WIERD_GREEN_MAN Jedi Knight star 4

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    The blockbusters, the crowd-pleasers, generally don't do well with the critics. The "good films" generally don't do well at the box office. The Avengers is way way way way way more fun to watch than Bicycle Thieves, but a critic saying that The Avengers is the "better" Bicycle Thieves would lose his job.
    And the critics' opinions are always different than many normal peoples'. Apparently the current best restaurant in the world is Noma (according to critics), but a lot of people would rather just have some cookie-cutter Mexican place's tacos than the langoustine with red kelp powder whatever appetizer.