Why did it take so long for the Jedi....

to realise that palpatine was behind everything? he was in office more than 10 years you know

 

Good question, especially considering Palpatine's constantly using the force to disguise himself. Force users can typically detect other force users merely by their presence alone, but they can always do so when their USING THE FORCE! I suppose Palpatine's must be an exception to this rule...

 

Sith used over 1000 years to hide from Jedi. IMHO it's a long time perfect this skill of hiding. That's why Jedi could not sence a Sith Lord sitting right in front of them.

 

He's not using the Force to disguise himself. And as he grows stronger in the Dark Side, the Dark Side grows stronger and affects the Jedi's ability to sense things.

 

yeah that makes alot of sense

 

The Dark Side clouds everything.......

 

"The Dark Side of the Force has clouded their vision, my friend."-Count Dooku.

As PalpSidious grows stronger in the Dark Side, the Jedi's ability to use the force diminishes which is why they couldn't sense him until ROTS.

 

it just makes the jedi seem dumb, why didnt the sith do this sooner if the jedi are so easily clouded? huh, answer that!

 

The Jedi are not dumb, they just don't know exactly WHO Darth Sidious is and as it's shown in ROTS, even though they can sense the Dark Side surrounding Palpatine, they still don't believe that he's the Sith master himself until he confessed it to Anakin.

 

Becuase Palpatine has only been in Supreme Chancellor for a few years, without that position of power he would have just had to attack hundreds of Jedi on his own or just with his apprentice. And no matter how powerful he is he couldn't kill the entire Jedi Order. And even if he did, what would he do then? He has no power, he would be an enemy of the republic for detroying it's Jedi allies.

 

they had no reason to suspect palpatine was under the influence of the darkside until Count Dooku told obi-wan the republic was under the control of Darth Sidious.

 

Good point DH05 and upon learning this did the Jedi not plot to force the Sith Lord to reveal themselves. All Mace did in ROTS was tell the chancellor he was under arrest and he revealed who he was. Surrely they could have done something sooner.

 

the book Labyrinth of Evil is all about the jedi's search for Darth Sidious. It's a good read and leads directly into ROTS

 

The darkside clouds everything

 

Mace Windu said: "Then our worst fears have been realized"

Surely they must have known, but were not completely sure.

 

The Sith...Palpatine couldn't move against the Jedi until he knew he was ready. He had to turn the Republic against them...he had to deminish there numbers, making it easier to kill them in one swift stroke.

To do this he generated the Clone wars. He made the Jedi Generals and sent them off into impossible situations so he could pretty much gurantee their deaths. When he saw the Clone Wars reaching a climax, he turns round and BLAMES the Clone Wars ON the Jedi! This is turn makes the Republic turn against the Jedi, and he can legitemately order the Deaths of the Jedi...declaring them outlaws.

Yes...the Jedi are cloudied by the Darkside...but everyone else Isn't! He had to make sure that when he took out the Jedi, he was doing it for the right reasons.

If he killed one Jedi, no one would really notice and he could easily cover it up. If he was going to take out the Entire Jedi Order people WOULD ask questions. So he need a way of doing it so that he would come out the hero!!!

 

The Sith have adapted, something the Jedi didn't take into consideration. They were thinking that the Sith were going to behave just as they had a thousand years ago. But Darth Bane's insight had served him well and Sidious understood this enough to play his cards right. He avoided giving the Jedi any reason to suspect him of wrong doing. But by allowing Dooku to speak to Obi-wan, he was giving the Jedi the keys to figuring it out. And through the Clone Wars, Palpatine intentionally started to draw attention to himself. The purpose being that he could get the Jedi to come after him, so he could legally sanction their destruction through Order 66.

 

The dark side clouds everything.

 

it just seems wierd now when you watch aotc and mace is sitting directly in front of his eventual killer that he doesn't realise it sooner! it was 13 years of sitting in front of a sith, surely the jedi couldve figured it out. it just makes them look really stupid, i'm sorry

 

Moving to the PT Forum.

 

It would seem that the Jedi's ability to sense darkside users is about as useful as a Fish Finder that goes haywire when fish are present, or a smoke detector that malfunctions when exposed to smoke. Very useful.

 

By simply saying "the dark side clouds everything" you are just using the line that Lucas useswhen he doesn't have an explaination for the things that go on. It is a nonsense line that in the easy way out.

 

Nonsense ? What more needs to be said ? The existence of the growing dark side diminished the Jedi's power (as said in AOTC). Simple and effective.

This is science fiction, y'know. Not everything has to be explained down to the last letter.

 

To do this he generated the Clone wars. He made the Jedi Generals and sent them off into impossible situations so he could pretty much gurantee their deaths. When he saw the Clone Wars reaching a climax, he turns round and BLAMES the Clone Wars ON the Jedi!

When did he blame the clone wars on the jedi?

 

In ROTS when he says the Jedi plot has been foiled. Hes basically saying the Jedi are doing what he's responsible for. For tricking the republic into gaining conrol by setting up the clone wars.
At least that's what I think