Why did Lucas make Vader much more energetic in ANH?

In A New Hope, notice that Vader is way more brash, moves much more quickly, and talks in a harsher, less scary tone. At least, it isn't as scary to me.

I prefer the Vader of the Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi to the ANH one. Will Episode 3's Vader be like the ANH one? Hmmm...

 

I noticed that his voice sounds slightly different in ANH. I never really noticed a difference in his physical manner, though - I'll have to watch again.

 

Shouldn't the question actually be "Why did Lucas make Vader less energetic in TESB?"

 

I like the less energetic Vader much more, and his costume is shinier. It's much more...how do you put it...stately, scary, and dominating?

 

Vader seemed very energetic running around Hoth to me.

And when he was fighting Luke and the end he was tearing it up.


So- i dont understand the problem.

CLone

 

His storming of the blockade runner at the beginning of the ship shows Vader with this brash, angry voice that speaks a lot harder and faster than the other two movies. I was just wondering why Lucas chose to change that in ESB And ROTJ to a more slow-speaking Vader.

 

The more I watched the movies, the more I noticed it. It seems a bit weird to me. I'm glad he changed it. I don't really like his outburst after killing Antilles. sounds like "...and bring me the passengersIWANTTHEMALIVE!!!"

Even in ANH he's rarely like that afterwards. When he comes to interrogate Leia he's very ESB-like already.

Maybe those were scenes shot early, when neither George nor Prowse knew exactly how to handle Vader. And just stuck with it when having Jones dub the scenes.
Don't know, though.

 

I actually like Tantive IV Vader. He seems more human than robot in those scenes.

 

Vader scares the sh!t out of me. That's all I really have to say on the subject.

(He better make me poo my pants in RotS)

 

I see what you mean. I think it was Lucas experimenting with Vader's character.

 

I dunno, maybe thats the first time in a while since he's killed someone before? And the bloodlust was just coming back to him? Well an enemy kill and not one of his own.

 

I really dislike Vader in ANH, it's probably the robes on his chest armor, combined with his dull helmet and less imposing voice, along with the way he's portrayed to be quite weak, following Tarkin's orders and being the laughing stock of the imperial officers. I dislike ANH as a whole infact, at least in comparison to ESB and ROTJ, it's the film that's aged the worst, it seems like a really 70s movie, whereas ESB and ROTJ are much more timeless.

 

One thing that made ANH seem so old is things like the control tower in the Death Star, it's huge, it's red and black, and has tons of goofy looking lights.

But yeah, Vader just doesn't seem the same to me.

More cowardly Vader (imo)

http://www.starwars.stopklatka.pl/images/alderaan.jpg

vs

Dominating, slow speaking Vader:

http://web.ukonline.co.uk/bingo275/ESB_Vader.jpg

 

I always felt like the Tantive IV Vader was a very frustrated, angry Vader. Perhaps he had some personal responsibility for the Rebels managing to steal the plans in the firt place or he was being held personally responsible for their recovery and could face some kind of punishment if he failed. Frakly, given that we now have the prequels, I sort of like that the first time we see Vader in IV, he's every bit as excitable and frustrated as the way Anakin's been portrayed.

In ESB, the times Vader is angry it's much more of a seething anger, so his tone is definitely more deliberate and controlled.

 

Hmm, it could be that Vader was always like he was in A New Hope until he came into contact with Luke, and he changed.

 

"I sort of like that the first time we see Vader in IV, he's every bit as excitable and frustrated as the way Anakin's been portrayed."

I like that. I think it could be true, too. It seems similar, but of course less whiney than, for instance, his "holding me back" outburst.

 

Vader energetic in ANH? I must have missed that. The lightsaber duel was so slow...then in ESB he is moving almost as fast as they do in the prequels.

 

Listen to Vader in A New Hope:

Er, you'll have to copy and paste these:

THIS ONE PARTICULARLY:
http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=takeher.wav&img=16&tt=wav

http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=faith.wav&img=&tt=wav

http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=iammastr.wav&img=&tt=wav

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Now listen to some ESB/ROTJ:

http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=forgiving.wav&img=&tt=wav

http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=clumsy.wav&img=&tt=wav

http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Audio/Classic_Trilogy/Characters/Darth_Vader&image=motivate.wav&img=&tt=wav

 

Vader was talking faster at the begining because he was A) ticked and B) under pressure to get back the plans. I certainly wouldn't have wanted to face Palpatine in that situation.
BTW, if you look carefully in ANH, in certain lights Vader's eyepieces glow red. Also, keep an eye out for the amazing color-changing lightsabers. Both Luke's and Obi-Wan's go from blue to turquoise and silver, while Vader's goes from red to orange and, dare I say it, PINK. This also happens throughout ESB and ROTJ.

 

The pink saber didn't exist until the horrid DVDs hit the shelves. Ugh. The DVD versions were a rush job. Let's hope something better comes along.

Anyhoo, "fast energetic Vader" only really exists in the beginning of ANH. There's nothing uncharacteristic about Vader in the rest of the movie really. So yeah, assume he was really pissed off and motivated and everything makes sense.

L8r

 

Better question may be:Why did Kerschner make Vader less energetic than Lucas did in ANH?

 

Vader changes when he starts chasing Luke between ANH and ESB. Before that he was Palpatine's errand boy, just like Darth Maul in TPM. In ANH he's doing a job. The Imperial officers know he's a #2 (or even a #3 with Tarkin around) and they treat him that way. In ESB he's on a personal quest. That's a huge difference. I don't think it has anything to do with who the director was. It was the story.