Clone Wars Why did Maul send his holo to the Jedi Council?

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  1. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    He sent his holo because he was placing an order for chicken wings :p
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  2. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    We don't know beyond a shadow of a doubt, but that raises the questions as to why he didn't either fetch or kill Maul sooner? If he had some use for Maul, why wait for him to "become a rival?"

    And a tangential question is if Maul intended to become a rival and ultimately take out his former master, why not just expose Palpatine to the Jedi? Divide and conquer by destabilizing Republic and Jedi cooperation. Instead he acts like it's some big surprise when Palpatine makes a move against him.
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  3. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Perhaps Palpatine wanted control of the criminal underworld?
  4. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    Palpatine could do that regardless using Dooku - just as he was able to get a foot in the slave market via Dooku. Instead he waits 10 years for Maul to take a course of action that hinged on so many independent variables falling in just the right way?
  5. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Palpatine can easily predict Talzin, it seems.
  6. TaradosGon Manager Emeritus

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    Talzin's actions themselves hinged on Dooku failing to carry out Sidious' orders to kill Asajj --> Asajj fails to kill Dooku with help from Nightsisters --> Asajj fails to kill Dooku with help from Savage --> Savage goes rogue and gets help from Talzin --> Savage retrieves Maul who is restored --> Savage gets pwned by Maul --> Maul unites Underworld but then throws them under the bus to seize Mandalore --> Palpatine takes control of what Maul had built up?

    That's a whole punch of variables Sidious would have to successfully predict, beginning with Dooku failing.
  7. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Sidious predicted them all, I think.
  8. Slowpokeking Force Ghost

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    I remember according to some TCW comic EU, Palpatine didn't know until Anakin told him about it, he was very surprised when he heard it.
  9. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    EU and TCW don't belong in the same room.
  10. Slowpokeking Force Ghost

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    TCW is EU as well.
  11. darklordoftech Force Ghost

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    Ok then, TCW and the rest of the EU don't belong in the same room.
  12. Slowpokeking Force Ghost

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    No, it only has a high canon level, unless they contradict with each other, EU is canon as well.
  13. Dark Lord Tarkas Force Ghost

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    I have answers for this stuff, but at this point in the discussion we're getting into pure interpretation, so I just want to be clear that this is my interpretation and I'm not attempting to say this must be definitively what happened.

    Even before TCW, I always thought of the dark side clouding the Force for the Jedi in the PT as something Palpatine was able to do intentionally because he just had that masterful of a grasp on the dark side of the Force. It's a skill. That's one part.

    The other part is that for the past 10 years before his "revival," Darth Maul is effectively dead. His mind was totally destroyed by the lengths he had to go to using the dark side of the Force to keep himself alive. So he wasn't giving off the Force "aura," if you will, of his true self, or of any competent Force-user with full command of their faculties. There was nothing to sense. That's the other part.

    So when Darth Maul first "returns," it creates a disturbance in the Force, partially because of the immense Force powers it took to "fix" his mind and body, and partially because after he's healed he's "feeling" the galaxy with the Force with full command of his faculties for the first time in a decade. But since he's off on his own and Darth Sidious doesn't have immediate knowledge of any of that, he's not using his dark side Force powers to hide it as he is to hide so many other things. That explains why Darth Tyranus and Yoda were able to sense him, while the Jedi Council couldn't sense Ahsoka's innocence. It fits Palpatine's plans to severe Ahsoka from the Jedi Order due to her ties with Anakin, and to hide Dooku's dark side dabbling pre-Ep. II for obvious reasons, so he has a vested interest in clouding their vision on these issues. But with Maul, I would assume he senses him for the first time at around the same time the others did.
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  14. Slowpokeking Force Ghost

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    No he didn't sense it like Yoda did.
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  15. Dan_Grievous_Tikkes_Fan Force Ghost

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    I think to this day Maul had no idea and did the things he did at random.
  16. Cynicalx Jedi Knight

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    Palpatine would head over there and deal with him, so he didn't.
  17. Legolas Skywalker Force Ghost

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    He wanted to show that he is back and better than ever and won't stop till he takes over the galaxy starting with by killing Kenobi