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Why did Palpatine pick Mustafar?

Discussion in 'Revenge of the Sith' started by Just_Joe, Nov 3, 2005.

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  1. Just_Joe

    Just_Joe Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I never thought about this till the other day, but why did Palpatine set a trap for the Seperatists leaders on a volcanic planet? He was planning to have Vader go and kill them sooner or later. So why not pick a less dangerous planet?

    Clearly he didnt want Obi-Wan to duel with him there because Obi was supposed to be killed during Order 66, but doesnt a volcanic planet just sound dangerous for your apprentince? I think Nute Gunray was smart when he questioned Grievous comment of saying they are being sent to Mustafar, where they'll be safe.

    Logically it was a poor planet choice for Palpatine.......but cinematically it makes sense. Palpatine = The Devil, The Devil lives in hell. The steriotypical version of hell is fire all around, all the time. So the only thing natural that could look like that is a planet of volcanoes! Sure a sun/star is nothing but lava, but thats too hot! ;)


    Or maybe I'm wrong and Palpatine wanted Anakin to get burned up a little so he wouldnt be too powerful and overthrow him anytime soon. Maybe ol'Sidious saw this far in the future and realized everything would be A OK, in the sense the Vader doesnt completely die! But I guess he didnt see far enough into the future to know that Vader would chuck him down an air vent.....reactor......thingy!:oops:
     
  2. BlackRook

    BlackRook Jedi Youngling star 2

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    The Techno Union already owned the planet and the Separatists had built a fortified bunker where they could safely hide while they waited out the war. By ROTS, the bunker was finished, and Sidious needed them to be kept safe and secure (i.e. in one place so his goon could finish them off). His order wasn't so much "take them to some lava planet" as much as "take them to the emergency bunker until everything clears up."
     
  3. SAND-CRAWLER

    SAND-CRAWLER Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Mustafar was essentially "Hell" in the Star Wars universe. So, when Palpatine told the separitists to go the the Mustafar system, he was basically saying "Go to Hell". It's a fitting place for them to meet their demise. Maybe Palpatine liked the thought of sending the seperatists to "hell". ;)
     
  4. Lord_Hydronium

    Lord_Hydronium Manager Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    It's the perfect death trap. Where can they flee to? I don't know if that was actually the intention, but it seems like the sort of thing Palpatine would do.
     
  5. Kained-but-Able

    Kained-but-Able Jedi Padawan star 4

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    In the original script when Grievous tells the CIS leaders where he is sending them, he says something about Mustafar being so unstable atmospherically that radio waves cant get through, so they will be safe from surveillance and wont get found. That's why they were sent there.
     
  6. Sith_Lightning

    Sith_Lightning Jedi Youngling

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    I don't think Palpatine had the intention of Vader getting burned at all. He wants Vader to become the strongest Jedi (or Sith now) in the universe. As he tells Yoda "Soon my apprentice will be stronger than both of us." Or something to that extent, quoting from memory there.
     
  7. Drac39

    Drac39 Jedi Grand Master star 7

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    Well Palpatine had no idea Vader/Anakin would be burnt to a crisp
     
  8. lrdmonarch

    lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling star 3

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    So you're saying that when Han says, "Then I'll meet you in hell!" in ESB he means Mustafar?
     
  9. Leias_Lipgloss

    Leias_Lipgloss Jedi Master star 1

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    Mustafar seems relatively uninhabited. So nobody would see what Vader (and Palps) were up to there. That and Palps is playing an inside joke on Anakin, sending him physically and metaphorically to Hell. ;)
     
  10. lrdmonarch

    lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Strangly there's a civilization that lives there.
     
  11. Force-Keeper

    Force-Keeper Jedi Master star 5

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    Mustafar is a far, out of the way planet. The OS Databank says that it's "intense geological activity creates natural scanning interference that has kept prying eyes away from Mustafar for most of its history". That's a perfect planet for Palpatine to pick for the Separatists in order to make them believe they're safe from anyone trying to track them down.

    Was it a dangerous place for Palpatine to send his apprentice? Yes, but remember, Palpatine just wanted Anakin to kill off the Separatists, send a message to shut the droid units down, and leave. The mission itself wasn't dangerous until you know who showed up.
     
  12. Leias_Lipgloss

    Leias_Lipgloss Jedi Master star 1

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    Oh, I didn't know that. Is that from the novel?
     
  13. lrdmonarch

    lrdmonarch Jedi Youngling star 3

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    From the Commentary, Lucas says there's a civilization that lives there and mines the minerals from the lava.
     
  14. Get_in_Gear

    Get_in_Gear Jedi Youngling star 5

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    The Mustafarians can be seen in the film, most noticeably when Ani first arrives on Mustafar and orders Artoo back to the ship.
     
  15. Force-Keeper

    Force-Keeper Jedi Master star 5

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    Here's a picture for those who didn't see them in the film.
    [image=http://starwars.com/databank/species/mustafarian/img/movie_bg.jpg]
     
  16. That_Random_Jedi

    That_Random_Jedi Jedi Master star 3

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    Think about it. A godforsaken hellhole like Mustafar would be the absolute LAST place they'd expect to find an enemy hideout. But, then again, that's probably what they said about Hoth.
     
  17. Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa

    Smuggler-of-Mos-Espa Jedi Youngling star 6

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    Mustafar is very out of the way. Anakin could easily assassinate them there without an investigation or any futher attention he didn't need.
     
  18. Just_Joe

    Just_Joe Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Oh nuts, you're right. I remember reading on Starwars.com or a homing beacon e-mail that Grievous gave that excuse to Nute or one of the other seperatists. The dialogue was either cut in post production or was never recorded.

    Though they were probably better off being arrested on Utapau!;) Even though Palps probably would have still had them all executed back on Coruscant.[face_beatup]
     
  19. deltau922

    deltau922 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Probably because he read the Return of the Jedi novelization and needed some lava pronto.
     
  20. D_Lowe

    D_Lowe Jedi Knight star 6

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    Why does anybody pick any planet? Why did the Rebels pick Hoth? The point is Lucas wanted a lava type planet to have the Anakin and Obi-Wan duel.
     
  21. El-Elyon

    El-Elyon Jedi Master star 2

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    well anakin had to become darth vader or the prequels wouldn't work, sooo lucas had to make him all crispy on some flaming planet. basicly it's in the script.

    some people over analyse these things...
     
  22. -maynard-

    -maynard- Jedi Youngling star 3

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    lol
     
  23. Darth_Morhs

    Darth_Morhs Jedi Youngling star 3

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    It may have been a place where he could make them think they will be safe from the Republic because they would think that their troops would not risk going there. But in Battlefront II, they do (awesome level).
     
  24. Gungan_Sith

    Gungan_Sith Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Probably because it would be nearly impossible to stage a battle there (unless you count Battlefront II). The only Clones that could fit on that small platform would all be killed by security Droids and Nemoidians. Or the Separatists could turn off the heat protection around that area and let all the Clones sink into the lava along with the platform.
     
  25. sithrules70

    sithrules70 Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Or maybe I'm wrong and Palpatine wanted Anakin to get burned up a little so he wouldnt be too powerful and overthrow him anytime soon.

    no.palps wanted vader to be all powerful.GL says that palpatine is very dissapointed to end up with another count dooku instead of what he signed up for.
     
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