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Why did Qui Gon not know that Padme was the real Queen of Naboo?

Discussion in 'The Phantom Menace' started by LordDarthXavier, Feb 15, 2005.

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  1. LordDarthXavier

    LordDarthXavier Jedi Youngling

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    I am not sure if this has been asked before, if it has been please cancel the topic. But why did neither Qui Qong or Obi Wan sense the deception of Padme and the fake Queen of Naboo until they mentioned it themselves? It seems to me that they would have sensed some deception going.

    Even Palps does not seem to sense it either when they first meet at the landing bay on Coruscant but he has seen her via hologram before.
     
  2. rpeugh

    rpeugh Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    They did know all along. That is why Quigon taunted her ever so subtlely throughout the movie.

    But I am not sure if Palpatine knew.
     
  3. Mace Windy

    Mace Windy Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Palpatine knows everything. He must have known.

    I also agree that Qui-Gon knew. In fact, I am willing to bet that Jar Jar and Anakin were essentially the only ones fooled.



    :cool: Mace Windy,
    too windy for spoilers!
     
  4. Crow_T_Robot

    Crow_T_Robot Jedi Master star 3

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    George Lucas even says the same thing about Qui-gon knowing, and subtley teasing her about it in the commentary.
     
  5. Obi_Frans

    Obi_Frans Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I think Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan even had a little bet of theirs going on about it

    I love the look they give each other when she "reveals" it, Qui-Gon's like "cough it up Benny" and Kenobi's is like "Good play cursed one"

    - O_F
     
  6. Tyranus230

    Tyranus230 Jedi Master star 7

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    Qui-Gon knew and he gave subtle hints to indicate that he knew.
     
  7. BothofUs

    BothofUs Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "The Queen trusts me...you should too."

    great tease by Qui-Gon.

    "No more requests from the Queen today"..."This is not a good idea"

    Right in front of her. Haha.
     
  8. openmind

    openmind Jedi Padawan star 4

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    ?the Queen trusts my judgement, you should too!? ? Owned! :p
     
  9. LordDarthXavier

    LordDarthXavier Jedi Youngling

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    Ok I agree, they knew and kept it to themselves mostly. So Palps must have known as well.
     
  10. Lars_Muul

    Lars_Muul Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I'm sure Palpatine was in on the little scam from the start, since he was Naboo's senator.



    Naboo - the home of humans, gungans and shaaks
    /LM
     
  11. Chaotic_Serenity

    Chaotic_Serenity Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Considering that it's likely done for all Nubian rulers, as well, most likely.

    It's interesting to see just how many women they managed to pick up that look like Ambidala. You'd think it wouldn't be a popular job, playing the "shoot me" target for a Queen... :p
     
  12. KMG-365

    KMG-365 Jedi Youngling star 1

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    You'd think it wouldn't be a popular job, playing the "shoot me" target for a Queen...

    Perhaps they consider themselves the Secret Service of Naboo. ;)
     
  13. Darth Kruel

    Darth Kruel Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Qui-Gon Jinn had too much insight not to know. Sabe and Padme looked nothing alike so Qui-Gon and probably Obi-Wan knew all along. It's really not hard to see the difference between the decoy and the real one, unless you're seeing the movie for the 1st time.
     
  14. Harabec

    Harabec Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'm not so sure that Obi-Wan knew. Qui-Gon obviously did, between his taunting and his "I told you so" expression during the reveal; Obi-Wan's expression didn't suggest prior knowledge of the information.
     
  15. DarthJohnkenobi

    DarthJohnkenobi Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Sabe and Padme looked nothing alike

    Actually they do look alike, as if they were sisters. From the "real world" point of view Natalie and Kiera look amazingly similar. In Pirates of the Carribean, from certian angles, Kiera looks just like Natalie.
     
  16. Durwood

    Durwood Jedi Master star 5

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    ...from certian angles, Kiera looks just like Natalie.

    I'll take one of each, please!
     
  17. Amon_Amarth

    Amon_Amarth Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    I think he knew all along. I can tell by the look he gave Obi-Wan in Plea to the Gungans chapter.
     
  18. Stamm

    Stamm Jedi Master

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    [blockquote]In fact, I am willing to bet that Jar Jar and Anakin were essentially the only ones fooled.[/blockquote]
    And me, too... [face_blush]
     
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