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PT Why did the entire Jedi Council come to Naboo?

Discussion in 'Prequel Trilogy' started by ewoksimon, Sep 27, 2014.

  1. ewoksimon

    ewoksimon Chosen One star 5

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    This is an admittedly minor question, but why did the ENTIRE Jedi Council schlepp all the way to Naboo for the end of TPM? They barely played a role in the victory, and yet there they all are ceremoniously standing at the end of the parade. Perhaps they came to pay their respects to the passing of Qui-Gon, and I could certainly see Yoda and perhaps Mace making the trip for that occasion, but for the entire council to come just seems superfluous to me. Who's going to run the Jedi Order while everyone's out partying / mourning on Naboo?

    Again, a minor question, but something to think about.
     
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  2. Valairy Scot

    Valairy Scot Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    This possibility of an actual Sith, as Qui-Gon had earlier said, plus Qui-Gon's death, IMHO. And perhaps, too, to check out the story of this "wunderkid" who "won" the Battle of Naboo.
     
  3. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    They came to pay their respects to Qui-gon, to receive Obi-wan's report on what happened and to looking into both Anakin and Maul.
     
  4. Drewdude91

    Drewdude91 Jedi Knight star 3

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    You do realize they don't need to be in the Temple to do their jobs right?
     
  5. Meyerm

    Meyerm Jedi Padawan star 2

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    In that time, jedi rarely died at the hands of another force user, let alone a possible sith. It makes me wonder though how Qui-gon immediately came to the conclusion Maul was a sith and not just another rogue dark jedi.
     
  6. ScorpionJedi

    ScorpionJedi Jedi Master star 3

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    They should not have come at the end. How It Should Have Ended nailed what the Jedi Council should have been doing(At 1:26).
     
  7. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    If he was a Jedi, then Qui-Gon would have heard of or known of him. Also at the time his tattoos were supposed to be Sith markings.
     
  8. Meyerm

    Meyerm Jedi Padawan star 2

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    There's been dark "jedi" trained by those other than the jedi order (Savage Opress as an example). As for the tattoos, there's also a fair share of sith wannabes among dark jedi.
     
  9. The Supreme Chancellor

    The Supreme Chancellor Jedi Master star 4

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    That's why I said at the time, as in when the film was produced. Now that the EU has been removed and taking into account TCW canon it makes less sense. However in the movies we know that the Sith are the only ones who use red lightsabers, and for all we know double bladed lightsabers, so perhaps that is what convinced Qui-Gon.
     
  10. skygawker

    skygawker Jedi Knight star 3

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    Also presumably his skill with a lightsaber and strength in the dark side. I think it was clear that he had been trained by someone with serious knowledge and power, and since it wasn't the Jedi, they assumed it was the Sith. I agree that their assumption makes more sense if you aren't taking into account TCW/the EU - but even then, most of the dark Jedi who aren't fallen ex-Jedi were trained by the Sith, so I can see why they would presume that's where Maul came from.
     
  11. Meyerm

    Meyerm Jedi Padawan star 2

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    So not certain they're sith, but have been in contact with sith and trained by them.
     
  12. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Except that goes against their mandate of getting involved only when directed to by the Senate.

    No, more like someone who has figured out how to train themselves in the ways of the Force. That is what Qui-gon believes at first. It is only when he has more time to think about it, does it occur to him that it has to be a Sith Lord.
     
  13. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Actually, this is a good question... For security reasons, why do you bring the entire or a large portion of the counsel there.
     
  14. DANNASUK

    DANNASUK Force Ghost star 7

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    ^^ This
     
  15. STARBOB

    STARBOB Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    I don't remember seeing Yaddle, Yarael Poof, Or Oppo Rancisis there?
     
  16. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    You really think an assassination attempt on a dozen Jedi is wise? People who can use Lightsabers and sense danger? Even Palpatine is smarter than that.
     
  17. Bazinga'd

    Bazinga'd Saga / WNU Manager - Knights of LAJ star 7 Staff Member Manager

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    Something akin to Order 66 could have been initiated. (Yes I know clones were not developed at this point) Its the same rationale why Cabinet officials are held back from attending the State of the Union address. Contiunity of Government in the event of a disaster.
     
  18. Vialco

    Vialco Force Ghost star 5

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    The Jedi Council is made up of the twelve most powerful Jedi in the Order. Not even Darth Sidious could take on all twelve at once.
     
  19. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    He wouldn't need to, if he was sufficiently sneaking - some kind of suicide weapon could have been used. A ship, piloted by a droid, pointed at the city and then going into hyperspace, for example (though he'd need to make sure he was not at ground zero).
     
  20. Qui-Riv-Brid

    Qui-Riv-Brid Force Ghost star 5

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    The point is that he can see things other Jedi can't. From Anakin as the Chosen One to Maul as a Sith.

    He's ahead of them as is proven once again as he is able to join with the Force.
     
  21. darth-sinister

    darth-sinister Manager Emeritus star 10 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Well, he could as only Yoda and Mace are on his level. But even then, such an assassination attempt wouldn't be smart. The Jedi would sense the danger soon enough and would manage to survive it. The Federation's Droid Army is shut down and has been removed from Naboo. The Clone Army is already in development. There's no reason to waste time and resources when he has his grand plan ahead of him and no one else is willing to challenge the Jedi.
     
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  22. rumsmuggler

    rumsmuggler Chosen One star 7

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    Challenging the Jedi at that point would just put them on guard much earlier and would put a kink in Palpatine's plans for wiping them out.
     
  23. Spartan Kobe

    Spartan Kobe Jedi Knight star 1

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    I'm pretty sure they could sense that coming too. Even Ahsoka could sense danger with great detail, and she's not all that impressive with force powers or dueling. I don't think precognition can be circumvented by using non-living beings. The Jedi didn't sense that suicide ship coming in that Clone Wars episode because it wasn't their destiny I guess to run away or stop it because the droids were already working on it.

    And, Anakin has sensed a sniper about to shoot him in TCW too.

    And, they sensed Maul's return from across the galaxy.

    An event as big as the Jedi council about to be wiped out? Pfft. I think every force sensitive could feel that coming.
     
  24. Iron_lord

    Iron_lord Chosen One star 10

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    They didn't feel Order 66 coming.
     
  25. Spartan Kobe

    Spartan Kobe Jedi Knight star 1

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    They did. It was just too late. XD
    Well, at least Yoda sensed it.