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Why did they torture Solo?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by Evil_Billaba, Oct 13, 2003.

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  1. Evil_Billaba

    Evil_Billaba Jedi Master star 1

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    and not ask questions?
     
  2. Amanamans_staff

    Amanamans_staff Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Simple answer to this, Vader wanted to bring Luke to Cloud City and his way of doing that was to torture Luke's friends. Remember when Luke was doing his balancing trick on Dagobah and he suddenly stopped because he sensed his friends' suffering? Vader knew Luke couldn't stay away if his friends were in pain.
     
  3. DarthSil

    DarthSil Jedi Padawan star 4

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    And it was probably a grudge Vader held. Remember who kinda helped Luke blow up the Death Star and caused Vader to go spinning through space? [face_mischief]
     
  4. ForceMaster101

    ForceMaster101 Jedi Knight star 5

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    Han? oh yeah Vader is really mad at Han!



    ;)ForceMaster,
    Vader really mad!


     
  5. Darth-Vengence

    Darth-Vengence Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree with everyone. It was a way for Vader to get Luke to come to cloud city and Vader was angry at Solo for the events from ANH.

    But heres my question, why didn't they torture Leia???
     
  6. Jedi_David

    Jedi_David Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Maybe they didn't torture Leia because she was a woman. Vader was already mad at Han for shooting his TIE.
     
  7. DarthSil

    DarthSil Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The force. It told him "Leave this woman alone. In time you will learn why." ;)
     
  8. generallee5

    generallee5 Jedi Youngling star 3

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    i think they tortured Han for the reasons Amanamans and Sil presented. As to why they didn't toruture Leia, she probably knew more about the Rebels than Han, so they could questiom her. Which is probably why Vader wanted her to come to his ship, the Executor.
     
  9. Cometgreen

    Cometgreen Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Who's to say they never questioned Han?

    Cometgreen
     
  10. crystalrain

    crystalrain Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "they never even asked me any questions" - Han, in ESB ;)
     
  11. WMCoolmon

    WMCoolmon Jedi Padawan star 4

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    But heres my question, why didn't they torture Leia??? [/i
    1) Might've been considered too "adult" back then
    2) Already tried, didn't work.
    3) We never really heard or saw anything that said Leia wasn't tortured.
     
  12. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    i have given thought to that too on why he doesn't torture leia. In ANH, thats all he wanted for the most part, I think he should have tried to finish the job there, but then again, the whole Falcon messing up Vader's shot in the trench on the Death Star comes into play, but you would think there would be some yearning to punch luke's buttons a little more by freezing her too
     
  13. HaydenSeek

    HaydenSeek Jedi Youngling star 1

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    They did it for grins and giggles. :p
     
  14. Dark Lady Mara

    Dark Lady Mara Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I go with Coolmon's #3. If they didn't torture Leia, where was she during the time Chewie was alone in the cell?
     
  15. farraday

    farraday Jedi Knight star 7

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    They could also have been testing the torture device on solo. Leia had already proven hard to torture in ANh so Vader might have been making sure his machine was useful before using it on Leia.
     
  16. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    poor han, everything is tested on him.

    maybe leia was in another room like chewie's listening to high pitched noises.
     
  17. Salacious_B_Crumb

    Salacious_B_Crumb Jedi Youngling star 2

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    On a sort of related topic, what where those noises for anyways? Whatever they were, they sure seemed to upset Chewie quite a bit.

    SBC
     
  18. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    i havent the foggiest idea. perhaps something that is sensitive to wookies, kinda like a dog whistle
     
  19. Salacious_B_Crumb

    Salacious_B_Crumb Jedi Youngling star 2

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    First the webpage doesn't load, then it does. Then I find out that it was a double post. ARRGH!

    SBC is not very happy right now.

    Jedi_John, I figured as much. One might even go so far as to say that it was the Wookiee's torture. Meaning that they all got some form of torture (Vader is one hell of a Sadist).

    SBC might calm down some time soon.
     
  20. jedi_john_33

    jedi_john_33 Jedi Master star 7

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    you just need some Protocol Droid Eyes for breakfast tomorrow, then you will be very happy.
     
  21. Salacious_B_Crumb

    Salacious_B_Crumb Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Perhaps, but keep that prod that R2 has AWAY from me. :p
     
  22. Loco_for_Lucas

    Loco_for_Lucas Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    VADER: "So Dr Jones, you will tell us the location of the Ark...unless we will be forced to use...alternative methods of persuasion..."

    HAN: "Ark? What Ark? Like I've told you for the past two hours, I don't know what you're talking about!"

    VADER: "Your games only anger me, Dr Jones!"

    HAN: *weeping* "I don't know anybody by the name of Jones!"

    VADER: "Your bravery only prolongs your suffering!"
     
  23. JediKnightOB1

    JediKnightOB1 Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    /\ Ha, that was funny Loco_for_Lucas. /\ :p
     
  24. Old_Brown_Shoe

    Old_Brown_Shoe Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The novelization even has floodlights in the cell on Chewie, whom I think pounds on the ceiling and stops them. I don't think it would be a good idea to torture Chewie like they did Han, because you'd have to be in the same room, and Chewie just might break his bonds... [face_devil]
     
  25. Darth_Orgazmo

    Darth_Orgazmo Jedi Master star 1

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    I presonally think that they did torture Leia, just like Han.
    After the Storm Troopers bring in Han, another group brings Leia also.
    I just think it would have been redundant to show another Leia torture scene (ala ANH) and it also would have been more traumatic to the audience watching what was done to Han be done to Leia, so they sided with good taste and showed Han instead.
    I think Leia is just tougher than Han, having already been tortured by Vader and not cracking once, and that is why she didn't seem as broken as Solo.
    As to why Vader tortured Han, Leia, and Chewie (with that dog whistle on steroids), I think he did it for the same reason Mr. Blonde tortured the cop in Reservoir Dogs...
    He didn't do it for information or to get to Luke (well, maybe a little bit to get to Luke), but really I think the simple reason is that he tortured Han, Leia, and Chewie because he could. Vader was just that evil in ESB.
     
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