Incorrect. Mine is the null hypothesis. We are talking about something that has already happened in the films to date. I've said as outsiders, we can't interpret their Code. However, if they've consciously done the thing, and raise no objections even after seeing the results, then we know that by default it must have been part of their Code. Because if not, Lucas would have made that point. And Lucas doesn't forget this kind of stuff right? Just like he didn't forget to tell us why Padme never bothered. Right? Right? However, some people (like yourself) don't understand how their action fits within that Code. Well I guess I'm just too dumb Still - I'm smart enough to know that this isn't 'their action' and it isn't 'their Code', it's your theories, and your 'Code'. You said that 'uneducated outsiders' can't tell the Jedi what their policies are, and yet that's exactly what you're doing. But I see once again that you can't stick by your principles, well this one has bitten you on the ass, and it's gonna keep biting. By your own standard you have negated all your theories on the Jedi. But of course it's a double standard - it doesn't apply to you, meanwhile you keep telling me that I don't understand the Jedi code and that I shouldn't be telling them what to do [rolls eyes] Regardless of whether my explanation is the correct one or not, there is by default some correct explanation, This isn't a mathematical equation. This is a story made up by someone and it doesn't 'by default' automatically make sense. Do you understand that? In fact, you keep referencing an old Kenobi and Qui-gon Jinn. The former did the things you describe after the Jedi Order was already destroyed, while the latter was the most rebellious Jedi seen onscreen to date. That makes for the complete antithesis of "typical Jedi behavior. Ah-ah - you're an uneducated outsider and you can't dictate Jedi policy. And it's funny - a few pages back you were describing QG as a "perfect example" of the Jedi. You can't even stand by your own arguments. So let's see - you're throwing out QG's behaviour, Old Obi Wan's behaviour (no reason), you also said Yoda's behaviour was untypical, well what's left? Oh - your Resource Management theories which are nowhere in the films. Thanks, but I'll stay with what's in the films. Whether intentionally or not, you just overlooked the substance of the whole argument. Again, coincidental help is just that, help by coincidence. Without any further information, we are forced to conclude that a Jedi is as equally likely to help her coincidentally as not to. A 50/50 chance What are you on about? This isn't Schroedinger's Cat we're talking about, we have plenty of further information - she's a slave, she risked all to help them, the Jedi are against slavery. The Jedi do good things, they help people etc. etc., you seem to be forgetting about all of this. And you also seem to be confusing the idea of coincidence and chance. Your ideas clearly fly in the face of what's shown in the movies , - if this scene occurred in the films - if a bunch of Jedi, archivists and doctors went to see her and didn't try and free her because they couldn't be bothered - it would be laughable. What do you want, an exhaustive list of good reasons not to? First off, asking for "good" reasons is already ignoring the whole principle behind coincidental help as I defined it. But in any case, I don't see how its fair if I can provide reasons then you just dismiss them. You were serious?? ???.right. Okay. I honestly thought you were joking. I mean I wrote that whole joke sketch about why they wouldn't free her and then you come along with this lazy Calamari who forgot his sunblock and it was funnier than anything I said. But, you're serious?.. right, well, I don't know what to say to that. I don't mean to be rude, but the TOS means that I can't really say my honest response, it's just so ??. not-sensible.