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Why Didn't Palpatines Lightning "Melt" Luke's Face?

Discussion in 'Classic Trilogy' started by LottDodd, May 27, 2005.

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  1. LottDodd

    LottDodd Jedi Master star 4

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    If Palpatine's Appearance is Caused by the Amount of Force Lightning Reflected back at Him by Windu, why didn't something similar happen to Luke... Who took an even greater Lashing from the Lightning?

    Was that Always Palpatine's "True Self" and he Just let the Illusion Drop?
     
  2. Schilly

    Schilly Jedi Youngling

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    Possibly it was his true form, but alternately Perhaps Lukes Force was so strong wiht the Light side of the Force that he was shileded from the mutation....
     
  3. Dirty-Darth

    Dirty-Darth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    I always used to get into arguements about this before the ROTS came out, and since the movie didn't give an official explination sometimes I still do. But I've decided, it's just an opinion, and I will always be a firm believer that it was Sidious' true form, because I just like that idea better...

    ...But I will make a point for those who prefer the idea that he was deformed as a result of the lightening. Some say that since it was coming from Palpatine, it was like a 'closed circuit' and as it made its way back into him it took its toll on his appearance.
     
  4. Twinky_Stryder

    Twinky_Stryder Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Maybe Force Lightning at close range does a lot more damage?
     
  5. walrus

    walrus Jedi Youngling star 2

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    good question, hadn't thought of that. I find it hard to believe that Palpatine's true face was deformed. Does that mean that with the force he could look like an old, normal and healthy guy?? Don't know why but I just don't buy it. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that the lightning was coming back to him from Mace's lightsaber. . . Maybe even George hasn't thought of that, who knows!
     
  6. Clieggs_Missing_Leg

    Clieggs_Missing_Leg Jedi Youngling

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    I think its because the dark force power was amplified through Mace's lightsaber.

    Both Yoda and Luke got slammed with lethal doses of lightning with no lasting effects, which lends creedence to the saber theory.
     
  7. DARTHFINGERZ

    DARTHFINGERZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well we seen him prior to that in his old deformed Sideous form.......so IMO that is his TRUE form.

    The Chancelor thing was his gimmick.

    His true nature/appearance simply came out while fighting Mace, and like a true opportunist he used his weak deformed appearance to lure Anakin into helping him and then from there he was able to stay in that form and also get sympathy for being left "scarred and deformed" by a Jedi.

    Palpatine is an evil genius.
     
  8. walrus

    walrus Jedi Youngling star 2

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    Darthfingerz, are you sure that when we see Sidious in TPM and AOTC he's deformed??? I'm not really sure and I have always thought he just wore a cape
     
  9. DARTHFINGERZ

    DARTHFINGERZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Well......I'd have to see TPM again but I'm pretty sure I recall him looking pretty much like he did in ESB & ROTJ......same for AoTC.....

    TPM is the one SW movie though I'm not familiar with.
     
  10. Tion_Meddon

    Tion_Meddon Jedi Master star 4

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    I think it was Palaptine straining himself to use so much of the darkside that the darkside began to immediately deteriorate his body. It wasn't the actual lightning that scarred him.

     
  11. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I personally feel he couldnt concentrate all his efforts on killing Mace, and on controlling his appearance, so one had to go, and that made him return to his old decayed self.
     
  12. walrus

    walrus Jedi Youngling star 2

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    I found a pic of sidious from TPM, he's clearly not deformed
    Here it is: http://multimedia.theforce.net/imageFolio.cgi?action=view&link=Images/Episode_1/Characters/Palpatine&image=SidiousCover.jpg&img=&tt=

    sorry, don't know how to post a URL like a link
     
  13. DARTHFINGERZ

    DARTHFINGERZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    OK I see it now........

    Well hey I could be wrong.

    I just always thought the deformed old Sideous was his Sith state & the chancelor was his fake political face.
     
  14. DARTHFINGERZ

    DARTHFINGERZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Your right btw...he looks old there but not "deformed" or "scarred" old.

     
  15. Twi_lek_Tami

    Twi_lek_Tami Jedi Youngling

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    I think it was his true form and made it look like Mace was doing it to him when he was really doing it to himself.
     
  16. qui-gon-kim

    qui-gon-kim Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Anyone notice that when Mace was being fried, you can see his x-rayed skull? A nice homage to ROTJ, when you can see Vader's x-rayed skeleton when he's being electrocuted as well.
     
  17. DARTHFINGERZ

    DARTHFINGERZ Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I'll have to catch that on the DVD.
     
  18. Mustafar_66

    Mustafar_66 Force Ghost star 6

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    I don't think that lightning used on Luke was actually meant to kill him until the very end. It was more for torture than killing.
    The lightning used on Mace was meant to kill him. Therefore, the lightning was stronger and made him all nasty looking.
     
  19. Rogan_Agar

    Rogan_Agar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    "Maybe Force Lightning at close range does a lot more damage?"

    Exactly, and let's not forget that Luke was never hit in the face and his clothes protected his body.

    And if the melted face is Sidious true appearance, then why didn't we see it in EP I and II, when he was talking to Maul and Dooku?
    And let's not forget that he looked complete normal when he talked to Grievous!
     
  20. Det_Pak

    Det_Pak Jedi Youngling

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    Palpatine was merly toying with Luke,he had not "Turned up the Heat" He was just shocking Luke for pleasure.
    I'm sure the voltage was just enough to slighty damage
    Luke but not do anything fatal.
    Sidious does state "Now you will Die" as to say funtime is over,I'm turning up the voltage.
    Even Vader looks over at his Emperor with a puzzled look as to when he intends to finally kill Luke"
    Sidius most likely can control his lightning as does Vader does his choke force..when he wants to do the damage..he does it
     
  21. Rogan_Agar

    Rogan_Agar Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Precisley!

    The moment Vader took him he was in a shock and the energy was intensified. We could see Vader's skull, whereas we have never seen Luke's bones.
     
  22. ClonedEmperor

    ClonedEmperor Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Luke was hit in the face quite a few times by Palpy, and once or twice on the teeth even
     
  23. PalpatineAntikristos

    PalpatineAntikristos Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Motice the difference in intensity between the lightning directed at Luke and that directed at Mace and Vader. It's quite noticeable once one concentrates on it. Palpatine was enjoying seeing Luke in pain without turning up the "unlimited power".
     
  24. Darien_SabreHawkke

    Darien_SabreHawkke Jedi Youngling star 3

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    still can't beleive how many people think palps was scarred by his lightning. sad.
     
  25. Darth_Crios

    Darth_Crios Jedi Youngling

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    Lukes force is too strong for the lightning remenber he is the chosen 1....






    Darth_Crios
     
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