PT Why didn't Qui Gon not take other options on Tatooine?

I honestly don't think Qui-Gon would have had that much of a problem with just stealing the parts, if it was for the greater good (and I'd assume he'd just leave the proper amount of Republic credits and trust Watto to work it out). The problem is there was no way to easily do that. They required multiple, slow-moving pack animals to transport everything to the ship on the distant outskirts of town. There would be too much risk of getting caught, and then they'd be guaranteed to attract the attention of the Hutts.

 

He did. It was entering Anakin in the Boonta Eve Classic and hoping that he would win.

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Interesting post which provides a lot of food for thought.


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Haaa indeed. Just got me thinking.

 

Well the way Qui Gon was communicating with Obi Wan on Tattooine, was the same way Marty and Doc Brown were in BTTF 2. With those little walkie talkies. There would be no way of the TF catching wind of their transmissions anyway. And once Anakin became involved, Qui Gon more or less had him become priority number one. So then him piloting the pod to win the parts and free Anakin solved more of the issue than just trying to get a ship or use of a ship from some dodgy pilot with republic credits, which were no good where they were at. And would seem useless to use for a pilot because in that scenario the credits have no value except in the republic. Like Han said in ANH, he wanted money up front before he took the crew off planet. Nobody could trust anyone with the queen, because who is to say they wouldn't try to use her as leverage for something? It would have been risky to trust someone from there. And once Anakin came into the picture, Qui Gon saw a chance to up his chances while getting the parts and Anakin in one shot.

 

The Jedi comlinks don't have that great a range. Not during TPM era. That's why the Jedi had different comlinks and even holo transmitters during the war.

 

Mostly because even without all the logical/moral reasons why not, Jinn was (one of?) the biggest proponents of the living force theory, as in go entirely in the moment and what will be, will be. Either his own instinct, the force, or both, were saying that it was very important to follow this through and get Anakin out in addition to everything else, so that's the way he did it.

 

Why did Master Qui Gon Jinn not take the following options on Tatooine?

1. Well, there's a 10 year gap between Episode I and II, so technology could be an issue, though unlikely. However, when Obi-wan did transmit his signal, he was immediately attacked by Destroyer Droids. Probably followed the signal to him. Not worth the risk
   
2. This more than likely happened. What, do you want to watch them actually go to other dealers during the movie? Seems a bit boring to me. Mos Espa is also a small place, Watto might've been the only dealer in the area.
   
3. Obi-wan said that the only thing onboard the ship was the Queen's Wardrobe, which wouldn't offer much money.
   
4. Qui-Gob might use unorthodox methods, but he's still a Jedi. Not gonna happen.
   
5. He's a Jedi.
   
6. He's a Jedi.
   
7. They had nothing close to the value of the hyperdrive part they needed.
   
8. Selling a ship with a broken hyper drive would probably get you less credits than the Queen's Wardrobe. That's like selling a car without the engine.
   
9. He's a Jedi.

 

My take on this has been he wanted to get to know Anakin better. He believes so strongly in Anakin that he actually makes that a higher priority than the crisis on Naboo.

There are any one of a thousand ways he could have figured something else out. I mean, there's no reason he couldn't just pull a Luke-and-Obi-Wan and hire a smuggler to take them to the galactic core (or at least a busier planet closer inbound). While I can accept the notion that a small shopkeeper might not take all forms of currency, it's absurd to believe that no one in a busy spaceport would accept Republic Credits. He might have to let himself get ripped off but that wouldn't be any big deal to a representative spending Senate funds on an emergency mission.

But what Qui-Gon really wants once he meets Anakin is to buy time to get to know (and even test) him. If anything, IMHO, the movie shouldn't have even bothered giving us the awkward excuses.

 

Ok, Qui Gon was a Jedi and didn't do certain things like steal, intimidate, sell (Jar Jar) to slavers and kill to get what he wanted. If the race had not been held, what would he have done to secure Anakin? Would he have resorted to underhanded actions??


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Qui-gon would find some other form of gambling means to win the parts and the boy's freedom.

 

But with the gambling option closed would he have had to resort to more direct and possibly violent measures? The question is up to what point would he have done things "by the book"? I'm sure he would have resorted to some sort of intimidation or theft if he had been forced to do so.


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Padme's ship makes every other ship in the SW universe look like CRAP! They should have sold it.

 

Agreed. They could have easily traded it for a smaller craft which would have been able to get them off the planet and back to Coruscant


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Gambling isn't limited to pod races. There are other forms of gambling on Tatooine besides them.

No one is going to buy a broken ship that doesn't have the necessary parts that isn't on Tatooine except for Watto.

 

Because Lucas wanted to have Anakin in a Podrace, otherwise he would have written a different plot and have the jedi figure out another plan.

 

Would have been more interesting if Qui Gon had been forced to intimidate and trick Watto. Yes, not very Jedi-like but then again, Qui Gon did bend the rules several times.


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Well, he did end up tricking and intimidating Watto. First, Qui-Gon convinced Watto to take a bet he was destined to lose due to the will of the Force. Then, when Watto tried to renege on the bet, Qui-Gon threatened to get the Hutts involved.

Qui-Gon was willing to bend the rules. He simply wasn't willing to directly threaten Watto with death or bodily harm at his own hands. That would be going a bit too far.

 

Correct. Those were things that were still within the bounds of being a Jedi Knight. It may not be what Yoda and Mace would do, but it worked.

 

Mace would have resorted to intimidation and violence much sooner



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Mace is not Samuel L. Jackson despite being played by him. Mace would have sought out a different solution without resorting to violence and intimidation. This has been demonstrated in TCW when Mace used other means to get the job done.

 

Yeah, Mace pretty clearly abhors using violence to solve problems, even more than most Jedi. That's why it's so tragic when he's finally pushed to the edge in Episode III and tries to murder a "defeated" adversary.

It's Jackson playing against type, and I think he does a good job.

 

I don't know... He skirted pretty close to the Dark Side


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When Mace went to kill Palpatine, yes. But he was goaded into it by Palpatine. When he entered Palpatine's private office, he was there to arrest him and was still intent on that after the duel. It was being blasted by Sith Lightning that Mace changed his mind about arresting Palpatine.

 

Not valid unless you back it up with a random GL quote.

(jks! Please don't quote GL!)