Why does Anakin seem surprised when Padme tells him Obiwan knows about us on Mustafar?

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  1. Anakinhot24 Jedi Knight

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    Hopefully, this has not been posted before but this line has been bothering since I saw ROTS. When Padme speaks to Anakin on Mustafar she says, "Obiwan knows about us!" Anakin replies, "US?!" The way he says the line is very intriguing to me. He almost acts surprised but on the other hand it like he doesn't care. He doesn't seem upset about it or anything. Any comments about this?
  2. COMMANDER76 Jedi Master

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    Anakin is defiant towards Kenobi.....resents him for embracing the Jedi ideals and being considered "the perfect example of a younger Master Jedi".

  3. KILLER-CLONE Jedi Knight

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    Anakin has gone beyond the point of no return. As a result, he no longer cares what ObiWan thinks. He's on his own now.
  4. KILLER-CLONE Jedi Knight

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    This is slightly off-topic but I think the shot where Anakin says something like "As far as I'm concerned the Jedi are evil!" during the duel, is very powerful. The look of confusion and sadness in his face shows just how mixed up Anakin has become.
  5. DUGGY Jedi Youngling

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    "US" ? , there is no US Padme, only Me. and my new powers, ;)
  6. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    No, he seems a little upset.

    Remember, he's not far off from saying "Obi-Wan is trying to turn you against me"
    "I don't want to hear anymore about Obi-Wan"

  7. TheCRZA Jedi Master

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    I thought the "us" was phrased
    to emphasize
    what Anakin did not say:
    "or you?"
  8. jediknightFerusOlin1 Jedi Padawan

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    Anakin doesn't care about obi-wan anymore. he doesn't see him as his mentor and friend, but as one of the jedi that he has to destroy.[face_tired]
  9. SAND-CRAWLER Jedi Master

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    It's the beginning of his mistrust of her position. He's wondering if she told him and that would mean that she has begun to betray him.
  10. anakin_luver Jedi Grand Master

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    It's kind of like a "we don't need anyone's help" line. In a way he was trying to say "what does Obi-Wan knowing about us have to do with anything?" and in another way, he's saying "did you tell him because you don't trust me anymore?"
  11. rbarcia Jedi Knight

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    what about the smile right after when Padme says, he wants to help us.

    Anakin seems to grin at that point. I wonder what the grin means? Does he think for a moment that Obi wan wants to join him?

  12. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    Anakin is stupid. How about that?
  13. BobaMatt TFN EU Staff

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    Well of course Obi-Wan knows about Padme. He's known she existed for over ten years. What he DIDN'T know existed was a romantic relationship between Anakin and Padme. When Anakin says "us" it's because he's suprised Obi-Wan knows. Which is why Padme's reaction is, "Obi-Wan knows about us."
  14. AnikaAnakin Jedi Knight

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    I interpret that as a very condencending smile, liek he thinks Padme is really stupid in her belief that Obi-wan can help them, like he feels Obi-wan is worthless and can't help anyone.
  15. _Sublime_Skywalker_ Jedi Master

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    I figure Anakin is just suprised and ashamed. Now Obi Wan knows not only about Anakin turning to the darkside/murdering younglings/destroying the jedi order, but now he knows this whole time he's been married.

    He doesnt look like a very good Jedi,and I guess now he realizes theres no way to go but straight,and if Obi Wan has anything to say about it, He'll kill him like he did with everyone else.
  16. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    "Every single Jedi, INCLUDING YOUR FRIEND OBI-WAN KENOBI, is now an enemy of the Republic"
  17. BobaMatt TFN EU Staff

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    Yeah, Yoshifett, but in the very next scene Anakin says he can only hope Obi-Wan has remained loyal to the Republic. He's holding on to just a bit of hope that he can still call Ben a friend.
  18. EwokThatCried Jedi Master

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    That's his way of concealing his true sith agenda from Padme. She would not understand why Ankain suddenly betrayed all the Jedi.
  19. anakin_luver Jedi Grand Master

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    I like what someone else said...He thinks that Obi-Wan is too stupid to help them...or Padme's suggestion is so stupid he cant help but smile at her stupidity...sorry about using stupid so much ;)





    [face_laugh] [face_laugh] So random...yet very opinionated...
  20. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    Absolutely intentional irony as well [face_mischief] You're telling me you've never seen a random and highly opinionate post on TFN before? It was meant as parody.

    Bingo.
  21. anakin_luver Jedi Grand Master

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    Just seeing something so *blunt* and *frank* was just a shock becuase most people try to conceal their dislike for a certain character by using the sandwich theory...name something good and then something bad, and then something good again...

    It was pretty funny...[face_laugh]
  22. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    lol Anakin lover...I was just being silly...I'm glad you enjoyed it.

    Actually, truth be told, I love Hayden as Anakin, especially in ROTS...
    "This is the end for you, my master"
  23. anakin_luver Jedi Grand Master

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    Seriously yoshifett? I thought you were one of those people that bashed Hayden/Anakin non-stop...I guess I looked to deep into your "He's stupid" comment ;)

    Hayden did awesome throughout the movies, but for me, he *truly* shined in the scenes on Mustafar...just brilliant...

    "LIAR!"

    That was a huge adrenaline rush for me...
  24. yoshifett Jedi Grand Master

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    Seriously, Anakin_Luver I'm so glad that George cast Hayden as Anakin. I really like his performance. Maybe I'll get flamed for this, but I can't really think of any other actor that could have played it as well, and I think he was 1000 times better than little Jake Lloyd.

    The thing is, I love Star Wars so much, that I love all the characters, the whole world that's been created. I don't bash. I may gush though :)
  25. Carnage04 Jedi Grand Master

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    I think that he was sort of surprised that Obi-Wan was still ALIVE to even know about "us". He had assumed that Sids had followed through and had all of the other Jedi taken care of. He knew Obi-Wan didn't "Remain loyal to the Chancellor". He was saying that to patronize Padme, not because he actually thought that Obi-wan wasn't going to get whacked.

    Carnage
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