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ST Why does Kylo want Anakins lightsaber?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by NakkyGraphics, Jan 3, 2016.

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  1. NakkyGraphics

    NakkyGraphics Jedi Youngling star 1

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    So I've asked questions like: "Why doesn't Anakin's ghost appear to Kylo and tell him that Anakin turned out to be good?" And people say that it's because Kylo admires Darth Vader not Anakin. So if this is true, then shouldn't he want Vader's red light saber, not Anakin's? (Even though if Luke left Vader's saber on the deathstar then it got blown up)
     
  2. zam wesell2005

    zam wesell2005 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Kylo, knew the truth about Anakin's sentimentality.
     
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  3. DavidSword79

    DavidSword79 Jedi Knight star 3

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    It's the saber that decapitated Darth Tyranus, killed a hundred Jedi Younglings and ended the Clone Wars via assassination of several key figures.
     
  4. B99

    B99 Force Ghost star 6

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    Anakin put Kylo in his will..
     
  5. redinight

    redinight Jedi Grand Master star 1

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    Isn't there speculation that he had it in his left hand in the flashback scene? He also said "that light saber belongs to me".
     
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  6. Heroic BB-8

    Heroic BB-8 Jedi Knight star 1

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    probably considers it his birthright.
     
  7. DavidSword79

    DavidSword79 Jedi Knight star 3

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    There's some obscure backstory that Kylo went seeking for the saber and almost got his hands on it. Not sure how canonical it is.
     
  8. Elle-Wan

    Elle-Wan Jedi Grand Master star 3

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    My theory is that 'objects have memories'. The lightsaber, like Vader's mask, has the ability to show people Force visions. Rey saw one when she touched the saber. I think Ren has seen them before - that's what he's referencing when he says 'show me again grandfather'. The objects have memories so they can show people visions, but they do not connect you to the Force ghost. The last time Anakin touched that lightsaber he was Darth Vader, and that's the memory the saber would have.

    *I'm sure he would love to have Vader's red saber too.
     
  9. Java_The_Hutt_

    Java_The_Hutt_ Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I believe he wants it because it is an object that belonged to his grandfather. He is also a member of the Knights of Ren, who I believe are dedicated to collecting old Sith relics.
     
  10. DarthZ07

    DarthZ07 Jedi Grand Master star 2

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    What if the Jedi objects only have one force vision per person. First time a force sensitive person touches it - force vision - then after that, no more.

    Rey had a force vision the first time she touched Anakin's saber, but none since.

    Vader's helmet gave Kylo a force vision before the events of TFA, but he hasn't gotten anymore since. Thus the unanswered pleas of "Show me again" to Vader's helmet. So it doesn't matter weather it's Anakin's blue saber or Vader's red saber, he desperately wants another force vision from Vader.

    We witnessed how caught off guard Rey was with her vision, maybe Kylo was the same way, and the next object he touches from Vader he will be better prepared.
     
  11. DavidSword79

    DavidSword79 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Hey, that's an intriguing idea! Kylo is desperate to collect anything that once belonged to his evil hero so he can receive the singular Force-vision that touching the object will give him. How that will be conveyed to the audience through dialogue is another question, but it's a cool notion.
     
  12. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    He covets.
     
  13. JabbatheHumanBeing

    JabbatheHumanBeing Jedi Grand Master star 6

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    He has his mask and the ashes of his body. Why not collect one of his sabers too?

    He's a Vader fanboy. Having no identity (or a confused one) himself, he instead idolizes an avatar of evil.
     
  14. Dameron

    Dameron Jedi Master star 4

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    This is also what I believe. Most likely Kylo and Rey can both pull memories from the saber. That's how Rey was able to beat him in the duel. When she closes her eyes, she's downloading from it.
     
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  15. MilesEdgeworth

    MilesEdgeworth Jedi Knight star 3

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    He doesn't really want it. He just doesn't want Finn to have it [face_batting]
     
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  16. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    He's an honest-to-god prince like Lone Starr but looking to become Lord Helmet.
     
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  17. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Darth EMO is more like it.

    Gosh guys give me that lightsaber for reals.
     
  18. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    Well i gave him the short short version. Its an interesting question I suppose. The Macguffin being switched from Vader's helmet appeared to have went to finding Luke and to the lightsaber to Luke and the lightsaber. They even deleted the scenes with Maz handing Leia the lightsaber at the Resistance base. Wonder if the next movie he actually sports one of the Vaderesque helmets in the Art of TFA book.
     
  19. ShaneP

    ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I thought those were a very cool concept. I remember way back during the preproduction days of Episode One there was a rumor that Vader's helmet was a uniform for the Sith.

    Remember the rumors too about Vader's helmet and face mask resembling some alien species on Mustafar?

    So the Vader's uniform is a very cool idea.
     
  20. Baghdad

    Baghdad Jedi Padawan star 1

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    He's probably afraid that his "home depot" lightsaber:kylosaber: is going to explode at any moment....and it was Anakin's:bluesaber:
     
  21. Vorax

    Vorax Jedi Grand Master star 5

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    They already have been doing it on TCW and Rebels. The Inquisitor's are sporting some designs from their Sith Lord/"Jedi Killer" TFA concepts

    Vader's design probably in-universe comes from Darth Bane and the Mandalorians(Clone armor).

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  22. Finn Calrissian

    Finn Calrissian Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Because it has the force. It can open doors even.
     
  23. Rodie

    Rodie Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    So he can talk to it, too? [face_hypnotized]
     
  24. Tanjint

    Tanjint Jedi Knight star 2

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    This gets me thinkin'. What DID happen to Vader's red saber in ROTJ? Did it fall down the Death Star with Vader's robot hand that Luke just chopped off?
     
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  25. themoth

    themoth Force Ghost star 5

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    Yes. It's a family heirloom.
     
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