I hope this works and I hope this hasn't been posted before. This thread has been created to discuss the elements of rock over the years and why it's been second on the Record Charts to Hip Hop or Rap. I'm sure you can all remember the good old days of Arena Rock(Metallica, Faith No More) and even Grunge(Nirvana, Mudhoney). Those days are over now, and it's up to the up-and-commers to show us some good rock. In my opinion, they have failed dramatically. These new bands, especially in the 99-03 era have killed what rock once was. That's just my opinion, though. And with that, I'll get right to it. Here's the question: What killed rock? Personally, I think it was NuMetal or RapRock(Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park...) Limp Bizkit changed rock forever simply image-wise. Fred Durst made it cool for people to like rock and still be able to wear baggy pants. He opened up an entire genre of music to rock fans. Rap. While rap is a fine music genre, it killed rock for me. The other side of rock that has happened lately is "Nu" metal. Linkin Park is a fine example. The "teeny bopper" sound of their music is what made them successful. The screamy, "woa is me" lyrics and frightfully basic riffs make teenage girls think they're listening to rock, and thus... that they are rock fans. Wrong! You're not listening to rock, my friend, you're listening to MTV Trendified Rock. Another thing that has happened to rock is "Punk". What is this? What kind of rock is this? A record with 2/4 and 4/4 beats with riffs as easy as a Bob Mareley song? So, just because they scream the lyrics and are rebellious, they are rock bands? I don't think so. Good Charlotte, New Found Glory, Avril Lavigne, Sum 41. These aren't rock bands. It makes me sick to think they claim to be rock bands. Ok, end rant. So, what has killed rock for you or what do you think has happened to rock that has made it suck? P.S. There are definately still good bands out there; Tool, Mudvayne, Meshuggah, Finger 11... I'd say SOAD, but I don't like thier new album.