Why I Have A Good Feeling About EIII

I really feel that GL is moving in the right direction now. One indication are all the defectors: adios, boys!

Ben Burtt: he had to go. He was doing everything but playing a central character. His over-involvement really weakened AOTC, I feel. It's good that he's gone. He made his contribution, now his various protoges can pick up where he left off. Best of luck to a multi-talented guy but he really needed to leave the cramped SW camp and set up on his own somewhere.

Doug Chiang: I love his style. He really made the PT a special, new environment. On TPM. I can see why he left. An artist of his calibre is wasted on AOTC & EIII. He's basically refining his own and other people's work. And frankly, he's not that good at it. Chiang needs to have much more to do, far more freedom. Sub-reason: Eric Tiemens & Ryan church. GL doesn't need a raft of conceptual artists anymore. These guys know SW. They're the best thing to happen to this project since Ralph McQuarrie.

If you read the AOTC Cinifex issue there's some interesting stuff about GL doing away with job titles & ranks within the art & VFX departments. I think that's why alot of people left. But I think this is going to help SW. This sort of freedom will energize Lucas and provide him with a more fluid means of expression.

SW is limited in scope. That's part of the aesthetic concept. It's about variations on a set of themes not about extrapolation on those themes. EIII will probably be a huge disappointment to most SW fans but I think it's going to be a good, strong keystone to fit everything together.

My two cents.

 

Has it been confirmed whether or not Ben Burtt is still doing sound design? There's been no sound designer named on the official site...

But I AM glad he's not editing.


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Word on the street is that he's completely gone. 2 weeks notice. Bye bye Ranch.

 

I have a good feeling because I've yet to be disappointed with a STAR WARS movie.

 

Ben Burtt is gone? I had no idea about that! But thats certainly fine by me. Sound and editing are quite important. No matter how well something is directed or played out, it can be edited good or bad. But I did enjoy the first two prequals. If anything, I think I started being a nauseated hearing Mr Burtt re-iterating the ole "well, we felt it didn't move the story along, so we cut it" line for the cut-scenes. Now sure, you always hear that about cut scenes but errr...maybe I've watched the DVD too many times and hearing him say it over and over is whats nagging. Err...I should watch it again just to test that theory.

Ben certainly made some memorable sounds for the OT and some for the PT as well. But editing may not be his thing exactly.

I did hear of Doug not being involved in Epi3 as well. I certainly loved his design work and I imagine he'll move on to other great things.

But I too think it's a good move overall. Whatever reasons they're gone doesn't really matter. What matters is that at times some things fit and then sometimes they dont. Whats good is in recognizing it, either side, and doing whats right.

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I have a good feeling because I've yet to be disappointed with a STAR WARS movie.

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As for Burtt... as much as his sound design will be missed, and I'm sorry he quit (presumably in a hissy fit 'cause they wouldn't let him edit)... I think the movie would be better without him entirely than it would with his editing and sound design. I'm sorry it had to happen that way, but if I were Lucas and had to choose between 'let him do both' or 'lose him', with no middle ground, I'd let him go.

Let's just hope new editor Roger Barton does better than Burtt, and that we won't need too much in the way of new sound work for Episode III!


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So is that info about Ben Burtt just rumor or is there some official confirmation?

 

I don't want Ben Burtt to be video editor, but I think he was a great sound editor/designer.




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Why I Have A Good Feeling About EIII (thread title)

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Burtt's definately not doing the final editing, but he has been assembling the pre-viz stuff and editing that much in the same manner he did for the Episode 2 pre-production. I'm not sure about the sound work though. Someone hasn't been announced in his place as doing it however.

Chiang is gone, at least as the head of the department. He got funding to do his project, Robota, and couldn't do both at the same time. He is however still submitting designs as a sort of part time team member, by his own admission.

I wouldn't listen to the stuff Moriarty and the others spewed in that Jedi Council thing on AICN, most of it was totally wrong or information they couldn't know.

 

"but I think he was a great sound editor/designer."
Yes, his sfx are great.
But the editing..

 

I just can't see Burtt not doing the sound design for the very last STAR WARS film ever. That'd be like Lucas letting someone else direct. It just ain't right!

 

So can someone some this up for me so i dont have to read all the posts (im lazy)

Is Ben involved at all?

 

That is really too bad if Ben is not involved at all since he has been with Star Wars since the beginning.

 

Ep. III will do very well at the box office. It's the last StarWars so everyone will want to see it in theatres. It will reveal many secrets(hopefully). And most of all Lucas has said it will be the darkest starwars film, thats what audiences want these days(No more Disneyesque Ep. I type StarWars films).

 

There is nothing 'Disney' about TPM!

 

at first i was disapointed about Hayden's performance in episode 2, but i realize that the reason i didnt like him was because of the awful lines he had to give for the love story and the story about his mother.

he was great during his disagreements with obi-wan

if he beefs it up he'll be great!

with the mooshy stuff out of the way i think hayden will do an excellent job. so im looking forward to the 3 installment of the Anakin trilogy....

but not looking forward to the end of starwars...

 

Who says it has to end? It will live on the hearts of Star Wars fans for years to come!

 

As good as Chiang's work was, it was worlds apart from the old trilogy, and this film, more than the others, needs to complete the transition in style.

Ben Burtt may not be editing, but as others have pointed out, he may still be on board as sound designer. At this point, he's a tradition.

 

From a report posted today on the OS:

"Meanwhile, Ben Burtt is hard at work compiling computer-generated animatics from Dan Gregoire's pre-visualization team, footage from Australia of Hayden Christensen and other stunt doubles performing Nick Gillard's preliminary stunt choreography, scans of storyboards and artwork, some occasional stock footage and a soundtrack of Burtt himself performing dialog for all of the characters."

He won't be editing, but luckily he's still involved. His sound work on the films has been just as important as the visual effects work in defining the "feel" of Star Wars.



"That'd be like Lucas letting someone else direct. It just ain't right!" - Yeah, if Lucas let someone else direct we'd probably end up with films as bad as ESB and ROTJ.

"If anything, I think I started being a nauseated hearing Mr Burtt re-iterating the ole "well, we felt it didn't move the story along, so we cut it" line for the cut-scenes. Now sure, you always hear that about cut scenes but errr...maybe I've watched the DVD too many times and hearing him say it over and over is whats nagging. Err...I should watch it again just to test that theory." - What else can he say, LI? This scene sucked so we trashed it...?

 

What else can he say, LI? This scene sucked so we trashed it...?

Well, it'd wake you the hell up, wouldn't it?

 

LOL, on the UHF DVD, Weird Al is very candid about cut scenes. "We cut it because it sucked"... "This wasn't funny at all, what were we thinking..."

Sometimes he'll give a really sarcastic "OH BOY! HILARIOUS!" or somethin'...



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