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ST Why Rey was left on Jakku...

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by RacoonKing, May 29, 2016.

  1. CrackedKyberCrystal

    CrackedKyberCrystal Jedi Knight star 1

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    Lor San Tekka's presence on Jakku has to be connected to Rey being on Jakku. That cannot be a coincidence. And Tekka has THE most wanted object in the galaxy - the key piece of the map to Luke Skywalker. And the Church Of The Force believe in Jedi ideals and want the light of the Jedi to restore balance to the galaxy. So they would probably have a vested interest in keeping an eye on Rey and making sure she is safe. Through the movie script, we know that Luke recognizes and knows who Rey is when she shows up on the island. So Luke probably knows Rey's whereabouts and has Tekka there b/c Rey is there.
     
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  2. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    However, Rey's Survival Guide has Rey comment that the Sacred Villages (like the one Tekka lives in) are mostly isolationist. Also, Rey doesn't know anyone who lives in one (and lives a lifestyle that would be hard to keep tabs on her in Niima, much less from a Sacred Village).

    There's also no indication in the movie that anyone realized Rey was Force-sensitive until the events of the movie.
     
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  3. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    maz never says "could come back". that's not what she's saying. she's saying no one (rey's family) is there for you but someone could be.

    Maz Kanata: Dear child. I see your eyes. You already know the truth. Whomever you're waiting for on Jakku... they're never coming back. But... there's someone who still could.

    Rey: Luke...

    Maz Kanata: The belonging you seek is not behind you... it is ahead. I am no Jedi, but I know the Force. It moves through and surrounds every living thing. Close your eyes. Feel it. The light... it's always been there. it will guide you. The saber. Take it.

    Rey: I'm never touching that thing again. I don't want any part of this.
     
  4. A Chorus of Disapproval

    A Chorus of Disapproval Head Admin & TV Screaming Service star 10 Staff Member Administrator

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    Churches purposefully built on junkyard planets...

    [​IMG]
     
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  5. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Uh...yeah?
     
  6. enigmaticjedi

    enigmaticjedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    Clues the movie left:

    (1) Kylo Ren: "What girl?!" (context: the official informed Kylo a girl helped Finn and BB8 escape)

    (2) Chewbacca did not want to check Jakku, even though Han did.

    (3) Kylo said he saw the island and sea while trying to read her mind. This might refer to Luke's planet
     
  7. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    Number 1 is ambiguous enough to allow Kylo to not know why Rey is just as easily as him knowing about her.

    Han wanted to double-check the Western Reaches, not Jakku.

    I think that number three does indeed refer to Luke's planet. But the question that has yet to be answered if Rey is seeing it only because she was going to go there by the end of the movie, or if it's also because she had connections to that place/Luke from before. (Given that the map to Luke specifically pointed to that Jedi temple Luke went to find, I think a past connection is less likely.)
     
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  8. enigmaticjedi

    enigmaticjedi Jedi Knight star 3

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    WebLurker, the second point could have merit. Jakku is within the Western Reaches, and Han only says that line when Rey and Finn said the Falcon was on Jakku.

    Chewbacca also gave Rey a weird look at the end of the movie while they were traveling to Luke's planet. Not sure how to describe it. It seemed like he knew something.
     
  9. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    I really thought Rey was dropped off to be hidden from her cousin, Ben but clearly that is no longer valid.

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  10. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    The only thing is that Han is really disinterested in Rey at the moment. It's after this scene that he wants to sent her and Finn on their ways as quickly as possible, a point he doesn't drop until the show him the map (and even then he treating it like he's just the bus driver). He also doesn't attach much significance to Jakku, just a: "Oh, so that's where the ship ended up in. (Also, Jakku is only a small piece of the Western Reaches.)

    Not sure about the look. I'll have to see the movie again (poor me having to suffer so ;)). But I don't recall anything sticking out.
     
  11. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    people look hard enough for clues and find them where there are none.
     
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  12. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    The legitimacy is concrete at times when it is a direct attempt to expand on a theme.

    Ray's path runs along the ways of the force as described by characters in previous films. This is clearly intensional.
     
  13. arjank

    arjank Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Rey doesn't display any force abilities until she meets Finn and she flies the Falcon with ease.
     
  14. Hopeless

    Hopeless Jedi Master star 4

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    Clearly Kylo had a younger sister named Ania who isn't force sensitive but was so scary just mentioning a girl messed up one of Kylo's plans gave him flashbacks of every darn time they crossed paths!
     
  15. Parparamia

    Parparamia Jedi Master star 3

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    Rey wasn't 'left', she was 'hidden', on Jakku. A calculated descision by the hider that Jakku would be a good place, given the circumstances.

    Hidden from those who would do her harm. (first order, dark side users, etc) Easily picked up by the force when the time was right.
     
  16. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    If they wanted to hide Rey for whatever reason, why not send her off to where Luke was hiding? Nobody was able to find him for the longest time...and that seems like a much safer option than dumping her on Jakku.
     
  17. WebLurker

    WebLurker Jedi Master star 4

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    We have no canonical confirmation that Rey had any prior connections to Luke, much less the Jedi. We also know that Rey was left on Jakku long before Luke went looking for that temple (based on the fact that Rey is nineteen in TFA, was roughly five when she was left on Jakku, and that Bloodlines time-stamps Luke's exile after his nephew's betrayal as six years prior to TFA.

    If Rey was being hidden, it may have been the only option. Maybe her family/guardian's ship was being chased by whatever faction they were running from? We know from the novelization that her family/guardians were planning to come back for her later, so whatever circumstances lead to Rey being left on Jakku, it was a temporary solution.
     
  18. obi-arin-kenobi

    obi-arin-kenobi Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Snoke is rays father. He crashed his star destroyer on jaku. Then snoke left his kid there. Rey goes to look for his lightsaber.
     
  19. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    The Force vision is a mess — what with Pablo has said and what was stated in Bloodline, I myself have given up trying to figure it out. I just hope they don't forget to explain everything in the next two films.
     
  20. thejeditraitor

    thejeditraitor Chosen One star 6

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    it's not a mess. it's a vision.
     
  21. DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR

    DARTHVENGERDARTHSEAR Force Ghost star 5

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    Yeah, I know...it's just that trying to piece together what happens in that scene isn't worth my time now since the events in Bloodline changed my perspective of what really went on in it. But, you're right, it's just a Force vision.
     
  22. Alpha-Red

    Alpha-Red Chosen One star 7

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    Maybe Rey was a former Jedi trainee who for some reason had her memories wiped and implanted with a new identity, which would explain how she can do everything and pick up Force techniques with no training whatsoever. It wouldn't be very original, but hey, neither was TFA... [face_whistling]
     
  23. CrackedKyberCrystal

    CrackedKyberCrystal Jedi Knight star 1

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    The way I interpret the "there's still someone who could" is that there IS someone who could...'come back for you'. Not your "parent" but another - i.e. Luke - who may not be your actual parent but is still a very significant person from your past. Someone (again I think Luke) who is at least as important to your past as any parent.
     
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  24. Allana_Rey

    Allana_Rey Jedi Master star 4

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    She was dropped off on Jakku cause her mother found out she was a granddaughter of Vader so she left Luke and abonded Rey, scared she would end up being like him.

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  25. GregMcP

    GregMcP Force Ghost star 5

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    The daughter of someone not introduced yet.

    My current headcanon is that she has a powerful Jedi mother... who?... who had to go fight a battle, and left Rey on Jakku in haste for what was supposed to be a short time. But Lady Jedi is killed, and so no one comes back.