Why was Anakin crying on Mustafar?

"RolandofGilead
Title: RotS Forum Manager
Registered: Jan '01

Date Posted: 6/3 8:21am Subject: RE: Why was Anikan crying on Mustufar?
He's crying because there's still good in him. He's killing people under the mistaken belief that it's the only way to save Padme. He's hurting, but it doesn't stop him from doing it. "

to RolandofGilead you listen.

i'm not sure why this thread had gone on umpteen pages or so, but the answer seems obvious to me. padme even points it out on her deathbed: "there is still good in him." these aren't her LAST words for nothing. its just the unfortunate turn he takes in trying to accomplish what he sees as necessary in trying to save padme from her fate that causes his downfall.

anakin is very divided, IMO. he's a good person, he shouldn't be doing this. he realizes he's on the wrong path when he kills darth tyrannus, but he has made the mistake of listening to palpatine and starting down the dark path anyway. (his slaughter of the tusken raiders was probably the beginning of this fall, as hinted at in the opening scenes of ROTS.) that choice ends up dominating his destiny.

 

I went and saw ROTS tonight and this scene probably hit me more than anything else. I guess it's because all the other big stuff is expected (the duel ect). But never since my youth did I think we would see this. I mean, Darth Vader is crying...

There is still good in him

 

Here

 

No no. You guys got it all wrong. If you look closely, there is a plate of onions on top of the railing he was looking over! Am i the only one that saw this?!?!

 

It's a planet of lava
it's very hot sweat got in his eyes

 

no, I'm not kidding. He isn't crying in that scene. Watch it again. He has beads of sweat, and on of them is under his eyes, but they are just as noticable on the side of his face too high up to be a tear.

It]s just sweat guys. I guarantee it.


Thats not a good comment...why would the camera focus in on sweat from his face...and why would they have them coming down by his eyes if it ewas sweat and they thought it would look like tears...thats an excuse to get out of the discussion

 

I think it is a simple answer...Anakin is completely torn. He is right in the middle of turning evil and staying good. He just killed a room full of people, and yet he is wondering how doing THAT is helping him save Padme. He's still good at that point, he has still has feelings.

 

Why was Anakin crying on Mustafar?

Because even though he has become a Sith and goes by the name Vader, he's still Anakin and is still attatched to Anakin-related emotions and concerns. This scene as well as others in the film are clear indications that the sloppy theory that Vader and Anakin are two people is monumentally absurd and half thought up. He cries for the same reason he redundantly asks if Padme is "safe" as well as "alright". He cries for the same reason he is fully suited and yelling out "NNNooooooOOOOO": Because he is Anakin, and that's something Anakin would do.

That, or the little kid got off a really hard force-kick to the chin before being slaughtered and eaten.

 

I think Anakin was crying because: He was in the middle of Conflict. He was thinking about Palpatine's teachings and Propaganda. "I should've known the Jedi would take over." He was thinking. "Why didn't i see it before?" His mentor and friend Obi Wan was now considered an enemy. How owuld you feel if your close friend/family member was now considered your enemy? I would feel conflicted and heartbroken.

 

I'm just bringing this back up in case anyone missed the link in the redundant thread.

 

Sulfur in his eyes?

 

anakin proberly had doubts about what he was doin what he had done was wrong not what he believed in and the only that kept him going was that this was all for padme what kept him breathing and what was sad was him losing her forever the pain of knowing killin her was all of his fault

 

LOL! Is that canon, Neo?

I hope there's a deleted cannibalism scene on the DVD.

 

George Lucas? instructions to Hayden on how to play the scene with Padmé on her veranda before he leaves for Mustafar:

?Your full of adrenaline because, one, you?ve spent a whole night killing people, and, two, the situation is not good: The Jedi Council has tried to overthrow the Republic. That?s news to everybody. When you say, ?I will not betray the Republic? ? that?s you?re rationalization. So your very strong with that.?

Regarding the fallout from his killing the Jedi as he goes to kill the Separatists on Mustafar:

Lucas: ?This is Anakin?s greatest moment; he?s got all these new powers-everything is fine.

Christensen: ?Anakin?s just gone and killed his family, more or less, so I?ve done a deed that I thought would?ve weighed on me, but George sees it as an outburst of almost accidental anger that Anakin then has to suffer the repercussions of for the rest of his life. Anakin thinks he?s done the right thing in killing all the Jedi, so George wanted me to come to the scene with enthusiasm. Things are good. I?m the most powerful man in the universe and I?m going to be able to save Padmé.?

And yes, Vader IS crying after he kills the Separatists, he IS still conflicted.
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He has not become totally numb ? yet. That doesn?t happen until he screams ?I HATE YOU? at Obi Wan

 

looks like sweat to me

 

so George wanted me to come to the scene with enthusiasm. Things are good. I?m the most powerful man in the universe and I?m going to be able to save Padmé.?

"Things are good"

George wanted Anakin to be "enthusastic"? (rather than, say, bordering on crying?)

Lucas says that at this moment "everything is fine"?

....And yet he is crying?

Those quotes seem to indicate the exact opposite opposite.

 

Yeah, that kind of how I look at it, except why does he ask about Padme after he's in the suit and then yell NO!!! when he finds out about Padme?

 

The Jedi Council has tried to overthrow the Republic. That?s news to everybody. When you say, ?I will not betray the Republic? ? that?s you?re rationalization. So your very strong with that.?



Thanks for that excerpt. That definitely puts a different spin on things from the idea most of us hold that at this point Anakin was just completely self absorbed. He was an a$$, don't get me wrong, but he thought he was doing the right thing in his own sick way too.



And MAYNARD, c'mon man. Click on the thumbnail up there and tell me he's not crying. You're killin' me, man. Killin' me

 

It seems to me that, even in the light of "I'm the most powerful man in the Universe...", Anakin would cry at that point, because he's alone. There's no one else around for him to be strong for and put up a front. And, with no company other than his conscience, he's got to start seriously questioning if he's on the right track.
Seeing Padme again restores his confidence; unfortunately, he's now confident that he can kill Palpatine, save her and the baby, and rule the galaxy.

 

Christensen: ?Anakin?s just gone and killed his family, more or less, so I?ve done a deed that I thought would?ve weighed on me, but George sees it as an outburst of almost accidental anger that Anakin then has to suffer the repercussions of for the rest of his life. Anakin thinks he?s done the right thing in killing all the Jedi, so George wanted me to come to the scene with enthusiasm. Things are good. I?m the most powerful man in the universe and I?m going to be able to save Padmé.?

To me it sounds like Lucas and Christensen are refering to the Temple raid and not the Separatist massacare. By that point, Anakin's got tears in his eyes and I think it's here that we have what Lucas tells Hayden how to act.

"There's always this good in you. And the good part is saying 'What am I doing?'. Then the bad part kicks in and says 'I'm doing this for Padme, I'm doing this for the galaxy and so we can have a better life'. But the good part is always saying 'WHAT AM I DOING?!"

--George Lucas to Hayden Christensen, Hyperspace webdoc.

 

Why was Anakin crying on Mustafar?


Peelin Onions.


SWA.

 

answer is on rots book.

He was crying on Mustafar. Because the dragon said "Padme will die. You cant stop her death.You cant save her."

 

One word, Regret.

He regrets what he's become, he regrets what he's done, he regrets what he has to do to become stronger (which is fall deeper into the darkside), he regrets what he is going to have to do next(Kill Kenobi)and hates that this was the path he had to take for love.

He also cries before he goes to save palps. It's because he cant imagine living without Padame and the thought of her dying is like him dying too.

He cried before, when he killed the tuscans, this is through anger. His whole problem is that he cannot control his emotions. Thats the reason anybody cries, and thats what he's going through, pretty much from the start of the movie to the end, an emotional roller-coaster.

 

That quote refers to when Anakin comes to Padme` after the Jedi Temple raid, not after the Separatist slaughter. That's why we don't see any sadness from him after he kills the Jedi. It doesn't start coming out till after he's killed the Separatists.

 

"Why was Anakin crying on Mustafar?"

Cause he singed his finger dicing Nute Gunray and he's a big woosy-boy...