Why was Anakin guarding Padme alone at the end?

Well lets just say the Chosen One might be forgiven for entering marriage
The Jedi can't afford to lose this asset.

 

I felt the same way as SmoovBillyDee- couldn't see why OB1 would let Anakin accompany Padme to Naboo alone. Then I read Scruffy-Looking's fanfic, and I thought it answered the question in a very believeable way. OB is aware of their love and decides to separate them. Padme says to herself "I once became Padme to protect Amidala. Now I must become Amidala to protect Padme." Then, in her most official Senator tone of voice (critics call it wooden) she requests that Anakin go with her alone:

?Master Kenobi, I wish for Anakin to accompany me to Naboo; I am confident in his ability to carry out his duties. Moreover, there are certain things between us that we need to address and settle.? Amidala paused; her expression was perfectly calm. ?I?m sure you are aware of these things; I promise, by the time we return to Coruscant, all of the outstanding issues between Anakin and myself will be resolved to everyone?s satisfaction. Especially the Jedi?s.? She stopped speaking, her arms folded in front of her, continuing to gaze at him.

The secret marriage does settle the future of their relationship. I think it's a plausible idea that Obi let them go, believing the Senator would put a stop to Anakin, as she had in the fireplace scene.

Poor Scruffy- I'm sure I'm slaughtering his story. Read it here http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=8106962
Camry

 

"No one not even Yoda could have predicted that Ani & Padme would tie the knot."

Mmmm, Obi knows fully well that Anakin has the hots for her, check out the elevator scene or when she falls out of the gunship.

And anyway, don´t they both go all kissy-kissy when Padme arrives at the hangar? With Master Obi-Wan right next to them!!!

How cheeky...

 

Knowing he has the hots for her is one thing. Predicting that they would marry as soon as Anakin left his sight is another.

 

Yeah, but do they kiss in front of Obi and Yoda or what? That´s not a product of uni-lateral love, you know...

 

There's a thread going for sometime in forum about wich Anakin's defiance of Obi1 orders was the worst (http://boards.theforce.net/message.asp?topic=8074644&replies=57 ).
People there almost agreed that his worst defiance was try to attack Dooku on his own when Obi1 said they had to fight him together at the same time .
This little detail makes the decision of let him scort Padme back to Naboo even worst .
Not only he should ailing his arm, but also should had some punition for screwing that fight that bad ? it almost cost the life of Obi1 and cost his own arm .
It's a plothole.
Funny thing that few people noticed or debated this before cos' as a blooper it's worst than that " Owen didn't recgnized 3PO " thing .

 

This thread really isn't about Anakin defying Obi-Wan. There was obviously some reason why Anakin went there alone. We know this because Obi-Wan is obviously fine with Anakin going to Naboo since he answer was entirely unconcerned.

 

yes it does seem like a poor decision by obiwan and yoda to let anakin escort her home. because both of them were present when padme came rushing into the hanger after the dual and if u look closely, as padme and anakin embrace, yoda is clearly walking in their direction and facing them both, while obiwan is right next to them and sees it too.
so put that with the argument they had on the gunship, and its obvious something is going on between these two. you would think at least one of these 2 jedi masters could put 2 and 2 together!

 

Actually, I think the real question is, why did Padme go back to Naboo? With the Clone Wars underway, I would think the proper place for a Senator of the Republic would be back on Coruscant!

Aside from my story ideas, I think that Obi-Wan is aware of their mutual attraction, but was gambling on Padme coming to her senses and telling Anakin it can't be; perhaps he rationalizes her reactions in the hangar as a momentary breakdown, due to the stress of the moment. But as Qui-Gon said, "whenever you gamble, you eventually lose!"

 

Really, there is no hard evidence for Obi-Won that says that Anikan and Padme are in love with one another. Anikan tries to go back when Padme falls out of the ship. Obi-Wan might translat this as a good friendship, but not love. Anakin would probaly do the same thing if Obi-Won fell out. What about hugging in front on Yoda and Obi? Again, this can point towards friendship as much as it can point to love. I never heard anything in the Jedi rule book that says you can't have friends, otherwise Luke would have really skrewed up as a Jedi.

Also, Obi might figure that Anakin might have a strong sense of loyalty to Padme now, and it might be for the best intrest of Anakin's mental health for him to escort Padme back to Naboo. And who knows what other dangers are out there.

It seems to me that Anakin has pulled the wool over Kenobi's eyes.

 

I can see it now...


Ob1- "YOU WHAT?!?"


Man would I love for that to be a DVD extra.

 

I still think that Obi-Wan suspected something was going on between his padawan and Padme. I have to think about what he said to Typhos when Anakin and Padme were leaving for Naboo.

I do hope he doesn't try anything foolish.

Now, some may think that this refers to him pulling some stunt that involves him getting in trouble on Naboo, like picking a fight with someone. However, I believe he's making reference to him making a move on Padme.

Also, he's clued in when Anakin tells him that he'd much rather dream about Padme. Normally, you wouldn't say something like that about a friend that you have, rather someone that you'd like to be romantically involved with.

 

I'd say that there's a very high probability that when Episode III starts, Anakin will not be a Jedi. If simply going back to save Padme (and postponing the duel with Dooku) is grounds for dismissal, marriage will be the last straw.

 

Notice the shift in gaze and hesistation when Obi-Wan answers the question about Anakin. I inferred that Anakin either argued with Obi-Wan or simply checked himself out early from the SW hospital and ran off with Padme, with Padme using her position to cover their elopement. The early hospital discharge would explain why Anakin's arm is not more lifelike.

Notice, Obi-Wan says escorts not guard or protect. Escort has a social definition as well. This might be the start of his "true, from a certain point of view" habit.

Obi-Wan doesn't realize that Padme has romantic feelings for Anakin. The romance is out of character for the serious young woman Obi has known for ten years. Without Padme's feelings in return, Anakin's delayed schoolboy crush is a passing distraction. Obi never saw Padme flirt with Anakin (and did not see the black leather corset [face_shocked]). Instead, he saw her reply to Anakin's compliment: Anakin "will always be that little boy that I knew on Tatooine." Padme and Anakin finish the Arena kiss before they come into Obi's view. Obi is too busy fighting the Ackley to notice the Padme's little peck on Anakin's cheek after she lands on the Reek. They don't kiss in the hanger. The "hug o' death" could just as easily be a reaction to Anakin's serious injury and relief of a friend or big-sister-figure that "the little boy from Tatooine" is alive.

Obi said that Padme "seems to be on top of things" when she was in the Arena. If he had only seen her at the end of the Naboo meadow picnic scene.

 

"I would think the proper place for a Senator of the Republic would be back on Coruscant! "

Yeah really. There is a war going on.

 

Falls_the_Shadow, you've made an excellent point. I think it is fairly obvious that Obi-Wan knew of Anakin's attraction to Padme. But what he was not aware of is that Padme felt that same attraction.

He may have felt that it nothing would happen back on Naboo since Padme thought of him as that "little boy...on Tatooine." Any attempt Anakin made, in Obi-Wan's made, would have been thrown back in his face. Of course, we know that wasn't the case.

But, now the question is raised: What in the world was Padme doing on Naboo when the Clone Wars was starting? Did she somehow feel defeated and want no part in the Senate afterwards?

 

SmoovBillyDee, you ask why she goes to Naboo? Probably to elope with Anakin. The Lake Country is remote and hides many secrets. It is her home and she knows it very well. I am sure that she could create some excuse about official business, perhaps to consult with the Queen on the new war. After the Arena love pledge, she passed the point of no return.

 

I am sure that she could create some excuse about official business, perhaps to consult with the Queen on the new war. After the Arena love pledge, she passed the point of no return.

Falls the Shadow, you read my mind! I don't want to plug my story, but I'm glad I wrote it before you posted this, or I'd be accused of plagarizing!

Also, good point about how Obi-Wan does not necessarily know the extent of Padme's feelings. He doesn't know that Padme has already told Anakin it couldn't be, but perhaps he thinks that Amidala will put Anakin in his place on the way back, which is why he allows Anakin to go in the first place. Of course, he doesn't know that 'the situation has become much more complicated.'

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EDIT: Oops, sorry SmoovBillyDee, for basically repeating what you said.

 

DARTH-MUGATU, I would like to see that "Jawa Juice" scene, too. Methinks they will learn of the marriage only after Amidala is pregnant and can no longer hide it under the elaborate gowns.

With Anakin recovering from a major injury, it makes no sense for him to play the role of Jedi protector. I see Amidala's fingerprints all over this. A senator or president using official powers to coverup a love affair? Now where have I heard that before?

 

This is taken from the Scholastic Novelization by Patricia Wrede ( I hope I spelled that right) So it is I guess sort of cannon depending on your point of view..

page 164:



Anakin had told him of Shmi's deth that was why he and Padme had gone to Tatooine.. ( I can't read my own handwriting I had to copy this in the store..) Obi-Wan had talked to Padme later and she explained that Shmi had been kidnapped and killed by Tuskin Raiders.

Neither of them had been willing to go into much detail. Adn from what Obi-Wan knoe of the Tuskins, he didn't blame them.

It was no wonder Anakin seemed shaken if his mother had been totured and killed.

In the meantime, Padme's presence seem to cheer Anakin up and it woudl be good for Anakin to spend a little time on a beautiful planet like naboo. It might take his mind off the horror of his mother's death and the battle on Geonosis.

I'll come back and comment later.

 

In the meantime, Padme's presence seem to cheer Anakin up and it would be good for Anakin to spend a little time on a beautiful planet like Naboo. It might take his mind off the horror of his mother's death and the battle on Geonosis.

Being with Padme on a ship all by themselves? I'll say that'll take his mind off of things!

It's a shame the official novel didn't deal with this--even the wedding scene is perfunctory.

 

Very good question. The only answer I can supply is that the script said so.

This whole love affair/marriage thing has seemed very orchestrated to me since I first saw the movie.

I truly believe that Palpatine has manuevered both Anakin and Padme into the relationship for his own evil ends.

In pushing them together (he was the one behind the assassination attempts, after all), he knows what will probably happen: they will fall in love. Thus, this takes care of two things for him: 1), Anakin will be ousted from (or leave on his own) the Jedi order; and 2), Palpy is rid of the thorn-in-his-side senator from Naboo.

How is #2 accomplished: Padme has grown up in a society that accepts the fact that Jedi don't get married. Her family is wealthy, she is a senator. This marriage will cause a great scandal if it is ever found out.

And it will be found out because we know Padme gets pregnant.

So, it makes no sense for Anakin to be guarding/escorting Padme back to Naboo alone.

I also think that Anakin used a Jedi mind trick on Padme before they went into the arena. Her profession of love seems to be missing sincerity.

A friend of mine made the comment that Darth Vader always wore a mask. She said Anakin also wore a mask. You never really know if he is telling the truth. His eyes during the fireplace scene seem to be saying the opposite of what his mouth is.

That's my theory, for what it's worth.

 

I also believe that yoda knew what was going to happen and I also believe that obi thought padme would comfort anakin

 

yoda knew whay was going to happen

 

How about this:

At the end, when Obi-Wan says "I must admit, without the clones, this wouldn't have been a victory."

Yoda, of course goes into the "Victory? ....Begun the Clone War has." speech.

Then Mace Windu says to Obi-Wan, "Where's your Apprentice?"

I thought he was the one who assigned Annakin to guard Padame.....


Also, Yoda makes one of those 'knowing
something's up' looks when Annakin tells the driver to stop when Padame falls out in the Dooku chase.
Not to mention, Obi-Wan's verbal scolding of Annakin about letting "his personal feelings get in the way."

If they don't have a clue that Annakin & Padame 'have a thing' for each other, maybe the dark side has clouded the Jedi's veiw so much that Sifa-Dyas is really Palpatine in a 'shroud' to hide his looks......

If they DO have a clue, why send Annakin back to 'guard' Padame (I believe OB1 actually says "escorting her back to Naboo.")?
That's like sending a member of Alcoholics Anonymous out to buy you beer......