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Rogue One Why were the Cantina criminals on Jedha?

Discussion in 'Rogue One: A Star Wars Story' started by Bob the X-Winger, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. Bob the X-Winger Jedi Padawan

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    It just came to me, nice as it was to show the partners in crime in RO stopping off in the ancient city before heading to Tatooine what where they doing there? Robbing the joint.
  2. vncredleader Jedi Knight

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    Doing terrible, immoral surgeries on people. They are responsible for stuff like the decraniated.
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  3. I Are The Internets Force Ghost

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    Isn't it obvious?

    They are the Senate.
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  4. Bob the X-Winger Jedi Padawan

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    I just have to say i love the quote from Wedge
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  5. ForcePushUp Jedi Youngling

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  6. CT1138 Jedi Master

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    You don't get the death sentence on 12 systems by hanging around the Tatooine bars.
  7. Oswin Oswald Jedi Youngling

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    Earning death sentences on different worlds takes a lot of frequent flyer miles.
  8. A Chorus of Disapproval New Films Fearless Vampire Killer

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    "You just watch yourself! We have the death sentence on 12 systems. Well... technically, it is only 11, now..."
  9. B99 Jedi Grand Master

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    Hitting all the top rated cantinas in the galaxy..
  10. Gigoran Monk Jedi Master

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  11. PymParticles Force Ghost

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    The canon reason is Dr. Evazan (the guy with the messed up nose) was performing illegal surgery on all those people walking around without the tops of their heads. He was basically turning them into mindless drone slaves.

    I suspect the real reason is something like, A New Hope is Gareth Edward's favorite movie (not just his favorite Star Wars movie, he's called it his "favorite movie of all time") and he likes those characters, so he threw them in there for nostalgia's sake because when would he ever get a chance to film them again in his life?
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  12. Jester J Binks Jedi Knight

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    Brilliant answer.
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  13. themoth Jedi Master

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    In my mind, they were in the process of leaving Jedha when we see them, and they leave straight away - on their way to Tattooine. That's the only answer that makes any sense.
  14. Martoto77 Jedi Knight

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    Yeah like other folk have said. How on earth do people look askance at the notion of people being seeing on two different systems in the space of a few days, when the character they are referring to is introduced to us claiming to already have the death penalty on twelve systems?

    I guess maybe if George Lucas gets a shot at making special editions he'll replace the dialogue that's in the film with Dr Evazan saying, something like "Hey. I'm just on my way to board a shuttle to go to Tatooine on the outer rim for. Inform the barman at the Mos Eisely cantina to prepare me a drink for my arrival." and then add shots of Dr Evazan entering a shuttle. The shuttle flying through space. The shuttle landing on Tatooine. And Dr Evazan leaving the shuttle. It's the only way to expect an audience to understand and accept a character being in two different locations at two different times.
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  15. Blue 5 Jedi Padawan

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    He had a death sentence there and had to get out ASAP
  16. DARTH_BELO Jedi Grand Master

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    They would've had to leave in a hurry for sure-I mean like, literally being on their way to a ship out of there, when they bumped into Jyn.

    Maybe that's why he was so pissed at her bumping him: The atmosphere in Jedha City was clearly reaching a boiling point at that moment what with the increased imperial presence, leading up to Saw's fighter's attack. I'm sure those guys would not have been wanting to be stuck in the middle of all that and risk being exposed.
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  17. Cantina Regular Jedi Knight

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    In the Visual Guide it's heavily implied that Dr. Evazan was performing immoral experimental surgeries on war victims
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  18. ewoksimon Jedi Master

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    Because nostalgia.
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  19. Smellmet Jedi Youngling

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    This was the only cameo/easter egg I didn't care for in the film. Sure it was nice and nostalgic to see them again but there really was no justification for seeing them was there? They were just shoehorned in for the sake of it. That being said it was over in a couple of seconds and didn't spoil my enjoyment of the movie at all.
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  20. Martoto77 Jedi Knight

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    Does it need justification?
  21. Smellmet Jedi Youngling

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    Well... yeah, it does, otherwise you're just into winking at the audience territory. Were they integral to the plot in any way, shape or form? No. They were there just so the producers could go 'hey remember these guys?'
  22. Martoto77 Jedi Knight

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    There are lots of things on the screen at any one time that is not integral to the plot in any way shape or form. The fact that Dr Evazan and Ponda Baba are conspicuous to fans of ANH does not mean it requires justification.

    Here's justification anyway. Jyn and Cassian are in a new location. The behaviours of Dr Evazan illustrate what kind of place Jedha can be to hang out in. i,e. hostile. It helps set the scene. It could have been any two reprobates.

    The fact that it is those two adds another dimension which can be appreciated by series fans. The next time we see those two act like tough guys, a Jedi knight is going to sort them right out.

    This notion that anything not absolutely necessary is improper is taking things too far. And it only matters to people who recognise them as who they are.
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  23. Smellmet Jedi Youngling

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    I'm all for little nods and callbacks, but this just stuck out too much to me. It still made me smile though, so job done on the producers parts.
  24. Darth__Lobot Jedi Master

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    Maybe Jedha was system 11 out of 12.... Honestly that's the RIGHT way to do nostalgia callbacks. The scene only lasted a few seconds, wasn't anything that would bother or confuse casual fans and wasn't really anything more than a quick easter egg. There's no de-mystification of the characters, no weird plot holes, etc. etc.
  25. EHT New Films Manager

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    ^ Exactly. That's why it didn't bother me at all either. And if they're on their way to their ride off of Jedha when we see them, it makes perfect sense that they could survive the DS attack and be in the cantina on Tattooine when we get there later in ANH.
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