Discussion Will Disney/Lucasfilm remake Episodes I-III and/or IV-VI?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by bighairedaristocrat, Feb 27, 2013.

  1. Rawne Force Ghost

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    In forty/fifty years I'm sure they'll have been remade. But I doubt they'll touch them for a good while yet.
  2. Darth Chiznuk PT Trivia Master / Game Host

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    This will continue to go in circles without us getting anywhere. George Lucas is a very smart guy and has done everything in his control in the past to protect the story he has made and I don't see that changing. He would have put in stipulations to protect the films he made. Disney wants the SW brand so they can make new movies and I don't see them shying away from the deal just because GL doesn't want his films tampered with. I don't take the "unfettered rights" to mean anything other than they can make the new movies anyway they want. You disagree obviously and it's your right to do so.
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  3. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    To me, the prequels are bad films in almost every way, but I would not want to see them remade unless the idea was to reboot the entire saga. I'd prefer to look to the future rather than trying to re-do the past, even if the past was filled with fail and meh. If the sequels are good, then that will restore faith in the franchise and people will forget all about the disappointment of the prequels.
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  4. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I agree, moving forward is the way to go.
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  5. Zuckuss the Ruckuss Force Ghost

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    As far as remaking the OT, I think that is out of the question entirely. There will be special effects updates for those films, but in no shape or form will those movies be reshot.

    They are too ingrained in the public. It would be a massive headache to even undertake for no real gain.

    The PT, on the other hand, has not endeared itself the way the OT has to the general public. So, it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that remaking PT trilogy as a possibility imo. Probably won't happen for a time however.

    I think, for the immediate future, its best just to concentrate on the next trilogy. Not to mention the massive tangents that could be done with Star Wars outside of the Skywalker story arc.
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  6. Julius Vernon Jedi Grand Master

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    Bravo.

    This is what sets SW aside. It will always be superior to comic book films, and other sci-fi sagas, because it is true to its origins. It isn't about telling yet another origin story of characters through countless reboots, it's about adding to the overall saga.
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  7. bighairedaristocrat Jedi Knight

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    No real gain? Disney would make a killing. No matter what movies they release, whether its sequels, spin-offs, prequels, or wholesale reboots, fans are going to pay to see them.

    I dont think you could reboot the prequels and leave the OT untouched. It simply wouldnt make sense

    When you say reoboot the entire saga, do you mean I-VI or I-IX? rebooting all 9 would be interesting, especially if they started with Episode I... Maybe make it a 12 part saga with a new movie coming out every 3 years. You could use the same actors from start to finish. It would be an absolutely mamoth undertaking, but how awesome would it be once it was done, if the movies were all well-made? Of course, they could also just do something similar and create a completely new saga that focuses on skywalkers 200 years down the road or new characters 2000 years in the past.
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  8. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Well I wouldn't concern myself with episode numbers. If I was going to reboot the saga, I'd do it on live action television and it'd be the story of Anakin Skywalker from start to finish. It'd be different than the films but still feel like Star Wars. Personally, given how complex the prequel era has to be, I think it's easier to tell the story of Anakin Skywalker on television rather than 2 hour films. The many failings of the prequels weren't about the length of the movies by any means, but I do think that constraining the fall of Anakin Skywalker to 6 hours is doing that story a disservice anyway.

    Plus then after that, once you do the original trilogy era on TV, you have a rebellion storyline. You're not just showing the major battles of the war -- Yavin, Hoth, and Endor -- you can show all the battles of the war. You can have the rebels going underground, on the run, etc. That's pretty cool.

    Star Wars was born on the big screen but I think it has a TON of potential on the small screen.
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  9. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    That is something I would love to see if it was done right. I would sign up for that.
  10. T-R- Chosen One

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    Not only Star Wars, but Disney. Has Disney remade any of their own classics? None that I can think of.
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  11. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Plus, in the way I'd do it, I'd have a season between the PT era and the OT era that's about the dark times. It would be the growing Empire, the many atrocities of Darth Vader, and the birth of the Rebel Alliance before Leia ever went to Tatooine.

    I've given this a lot of thought since I'm writing a fan fiction series based on this concept. The only downside is that I know it'll never happen for real. :(
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  12. Placeholder Force Ghost

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    I'd sign up for that in a heart beat.
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  13. Poor Greedo Jedi Grand Master

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    not cgi...anime :)
  14. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    I can't see them being remade, surely Disney would need Lucasfilm approval to do that. Besides, the OT can't really be done any better
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  15. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Disney owns Lucasfilm and therefore Lucasfilm answers to Disney, not the other way around. Unless there was a clause in the acquisition deal that prevented remakes or reboots, Disney could pursue it if they wanted to do so. Even if there was such a clause, I wouldn't be surprised if it's not an eternal one and has an expiration date.

    Eventually, whether the series is James Bond, Batman, Halloween, Spider-Man, Star Trek, or anything else that runs for a very long time, the powers that be end up feeling that a total reboot is the way forward. Why? Because eventually, franchises get bogged down under the weight of their own mythology, and it gets harder and harder to write for them because of it.
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  16. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    James Bond technically was rebooted, at least in terms of style and gettign away from how it was done before. Comic book stuff I enver get, there is enough material to do endless movies, just cos you change the actors doesn't mean you need to reboot (like with Spider-Man)

    Why do remakes of SW movies when Disney can simply make new ones? The whole point of them getting Lucasfilm was to be able to do more movies. I assume Lucas had it as part of the agreement that they would not remake his movies. He himself said he had enough material to do stuff for the enxt 100 years, just like Marvel would for any of their movies.
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  17. Axle-Starweilder Force Ghost

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    true to a point, perhaps. but all of disney's major animated properties from their days of yore were just their own re-imagined versions of existing stories and properties. with the exception of Lion King... which was basically just an animated Hamlet with lions and stuff. so really, re-making movies or taking old tired ideas and breathing new life into them is their bread and butter. so as an answer to the initial question of this thread: it's only a matter of time...
  18. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Well, I personally differentiate between the terms remake and reboot. To me, a remake is telling basically the exact same story all over again. A reboot starts from the same place but tells a different version of the story, such as how Casino Royale started off a new James Bond story, how Star Trek started off a new story for Kirk and Spock (though that was technically a sequel too), how Batman Begins started off a new Batman story, etc. Those would be remakes if they were new but basically the same versions of Dr. No, Star Trek: The Original Series, and Batman by Tim Burton.

    I'm cool with reboots if it's done well and the story they want to tell is worth telling. I'm not cool with remakes.
  19. SithLordDarthRichie London CR

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    I'm OK with reboots, but when they go over the same ground again it does become annoying (problem with Amazing Spider-Man is half the movie goes over an origin I already saw in the Raimi films)
  20. DARTHKANISS Force Ghost

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    I hope they bloody well don't.
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  21. bighairedaristocrat Jedi Knight

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    As cool as a live action star wars tv series showing all the battles from the prequel era through the rebellion would be, that show would be far to expensive to EVER be made.

    I do agree that id love to see a longer story about anakins fall. We really only elements of it for maybe 20 minutes in the entire prequel trilogy. The main idea that i liked of the /Film article that started the thread, was the idea that we wouldnt waste an entire movie on a child anakin that doesnt doesnt do anything to contribute to the story of anakins fall. Id love to see more of that... but with James Franco instead of Hayden. They look enough alike lol.
  22. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    Yeah, the issue with The Amazing Spider-Man was its inherent lack of being necessary. The thing with Star Wars, though, is that you can do a whole different origin story for Anakin Skywalker than the films did. He was 9 years old in The Phantom Menace and he wasn't even the main character of the film. There wasn't much emphasis on his origin and how he was going to grow into a hero. That really wasn't done in the films at all, because the next film was 10 years later so that's 10 years worth of character development we didn't see.

    I'd start a reboot off with Anakin Skywalker as a 20ish year old so he can be the main character and go on the Hero's Journey that you would expect in a proper origin story.
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  23. Brandon Rhea Manager Emeritus

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    I disagree with the idea that it would be too expensive. It's only too expensive if you try to put too much into it. Let's use the live action series Luasfilm was planning to do as an example. Rick McCallum has talked about how it was too expensive to make at the time. Go deeper into that comment and we find out he has also said why it was too expensive. They basically wrote 50 scripts and each script had the same level of special effects as the prequels. That's insane. It's ridiculously impractical to try to emulate movies that have $100 million budgets. It also puts too much emphasis on special effects, which was a huge issue in the prequels (effects over story). If the effects are managed, then it's fine.

    Smallville really kicked off a trend in 2001 of making weekly episodes feel like they had the scope of a movie but with manageable effects. If you want to go for space operate, Battlestar Galactica showed that it can be done on the budget of a weekly television series.

    The trick is managing the effects, not trying to emulate a trilogy of films that was already too effects heavy to begin with.
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  24. run_luke_run Force Ghost

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  25. Zuckuss the Ruckuss Force Ghost

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    That is one of main problems of the prequels, the(supposedly)main character isn't really all that heroic. Lucas tried to give Anakin so many character flaws that we ended up not really caring about him at all.

    Also, if the Anakin "forbidden love" angle was so significant to the story. Wouldn't it have made more sense to make the female main character a Jedi?

    I never really got the whole "but I am a Senator" thing at all. That didn't stop Ted Kennedy...
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