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Will Ikrit's prophecy come true still?

Discussion in 'Literature' started by Veng_Commando, Nov 22, 2001.

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  1. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    The thing about Tahiri and Anakin doing wonderful things together? through the force? But ani's dead, or will Ani and Tahiri "Force Merge" like in Beast Machines on TV and something super will happen.
     
  2. darthparth

    darthparth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Did you just allude to "Beast Machines" ?

     
  3. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    or was it Beast Wars?
     
  4. Matthew Trias

    Matthew Trias Force Ghost star 6

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    Yessssssss.....
     
  5. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    yessssssss what?
     
  6. ShinagamiWing

    ShinagamiWing Jedi Youngling star 4

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    Yeah... but it doesn't mean that Anakin will come back from the dead!
     
  7. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Personally, I think that that prophesy has already come true.

    They have done great things together. I don?t think that Anakin would have been as confident as he was during SbS if Tahiri hadn?t been there. They did great things together through the Force during Conquest. We can never know what Ikrit was specifically referring to, and I doubt that Ikrit even knew about that himself. It was just a general prophecy of great things that could happen when Anakin and Tahiri work together.

    They have already done great things together. We don?t need Anakin to come back to complete that prophecy. It has already been completed.
     
  8. JediLaw

    JediLaw Jedi Master star 3

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    Always in motion is the future . . . .
     
  9. jedi979

    jedi979 Jedi Youngling star 2

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    If they could find a way to bring Anakin back that wouldn't be contrived or campy, I think they ought to. The interaction between him and Tahiri was definitely one of the more fascintating aspects of the NJO. As for Ikrit's "prophecy," to me it still has yet to be fulfilled. Greg Keyes made allusions to something major happening with those two, and it wouldn't make much sense not to follow that up.
     
  10. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Since when has it ever been one of LFL?s priorities to follow up on one of the author?s allusions?

    The prophecy was fulfilled. Whether the fulfillment of that prophecy was as grandiose as what had been originally implied or not, the fact remains that the prophecy has come true, and therefore, is no longer an issue.

    There is ample evidence to support the fact that the future is not always what it might seem. Luke had a vision of Mara lying face down in a pool of water, looking dead. Did that mean that she would die? Obviously not, considering that that vision came true, and she did not die.

    The same thing can be said for the prophecy about Anakin and Tahiri. Ikrit said that Anakin and Tahiri would do great things together. Does that mean that they will be the ones to end the war? Absolutely not, considering that the prophecy has already come true, and the war has not ended.
     
  11. RogueJaina

    RogueJaina Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I agree with JediJ.
     
  12. stevo

    stevo Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I disagree JediJ, no one ever said they would win the war.

    Ikrit's vision seemed to be very definite and signified that something big, really big would happen with them. There hasn't really been anything really BIG yet.

    Unless you count the Ripping Trees from the ground thing, but that just didn't seem to corolate with the prophecy with me.
     
  13. Tana_the_Jedi

    Tana_the_Jedi Jedi Youngling star 1

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    Me neither. I think that the prophecy has yet to be fufilled, though that doesn't nescessarily mean that Anakin will come back. I personally think that would make it kind of cheap, even if he was a good character. The fact that he was such a good character, though, and had all these prophecies circling around him, should mean that they add up to more than throwing some tees.
     
  14. NaboosPrincess

    NaboosPrincess Manager Emeritus star 6 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    I don't think the prophecy has been fulfilled yet, but I also don't think that Anakin has to come back for it to be fulfilled. Maybe he could come in a vision or dream to Tahiri and give her some information, and she could use that information to do something "big." Then they would have fulfilled the prophecy. Perhaps it's essential that one of the two be dead to give information or guidance that would save the other one. Just a thought.
     
  15. Veng_Commando

    Veng_Commando Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Most of us have probably read Jeff42's fanfic on Obi-wan being reincarnated a long time after Luke's death, well anakin could do that. I personally like the Force Merger between Anakin and Tahiri
     
  16. darthparth

    darthparth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    JediJ, you seem a bit jaded.

    An author wouldn't have alluded to such an event if an event wasn't to take place. Remember, all major events, such as character deaths, were discussed in committee before the books were written. Keyes knew full well that Anakin was going to die, yet he still had Master Ikrit give his prophecy.

    This leads to two possible conclusions. One, the prophecy has already come to fruition, or two, it will, somehow, come to happen in the future. How? Good question.

    I think one of the following will happen:

    1. Anakin impregnated Tahiri, and their child will kick ass.

    2. Anakin will come back in spirit and guide Tahiri

    3. The simple memory of Anakin will push Tahiri to accomplish something great

    4. Anakin is not really dead.

    5. Tahiri will join Anakin in death.
     
  17. Grand_Admiral_Xian

    Grand_Admiral_Xian Jedi Youngling star 1

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    I agree with Darthparth...

    one of those things, or a slight variation on them must, and I mean "MUST" occure, or it undermines all that was meant to be accomplished with the NJO as a series...

    I do hope Anakin isn't really dead, or that he somehow comes back as a "physical" being...

    But oh well...
     
  18. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    What Ikrit?s vision ?implied? is completely irrelevant. Luke?s vision of Mara implied that she would die, but she did not. The vision about Anakin Skywalker implied that he would be a great Jedi, but he was a great Sith instead. Whether the vision was completed in the way that was implied or not is irrelevant because what a vision implies is almost always not what comes to be.

    ?1. Anakin impregnated Tahiri, and their child will kick ass.?

    They are 16 and 14 years old. To have them have a child together at that age would be completely inappropriate. Not to mention overly difficult (physically and emotionally) for Tahiri.

    ?2. Anakin will come back in spirit and guide Tahiri?

    Oh, that?s original. (sarcasm) Also, Anakin?s body didn?t vanish; therefore his spirit doesn?t have the necessary energy to return like that. (based on my theory that the body?s matter converted to spiritual energy is what gives a Jedi the power to return in spirit form after death)

    ?3. The simple memory of Anakin will push Tahiri to accomplish something great?

    Her going to the Dark Side due to the memory of Anakin is infinitely more likely.

    ?4. Anakin is not really dead.?

    I call beliefs like that ?denial?.

    ?5. Tahiri will join Anakin in death.?

    That?s a good message. ?You can both do great things, you just have to die first.? (more sarcasm)
     
  19. dark_jade

    dark_jade Jedi Youngling

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    really, what is it that you people have against anakin coming back? i'm not saying that he *has* to come back or anything, but your lack of faith is disturbing. have some patience! and besides, ikrit's prophecy is one of the major indications that ani might be coming back, but not the only indication. there's other hints here and there in the books leading up to SbS ...
     
  20. Mastadge

    Mastadge Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    1. Anakin impregnated Tahiri, and their child will kick ass.

    Yeah...there's no chance. THis is SW, not Anne Rice

    2. Anakin will come back in spirit and guide Tahiri

    Possibly, but if anything it will be an "inside the head" type of thing more than an incorporeal emanation type of thing, I'd think.

    3. The simple memory of Anakin will push Tahiri to accomplish something great

    Or, she'll undertake a suicide mission, and actually pull it off without the suicide part.

    4. Anakin is not really dead.

    Yes he is.

    5. Tahiri will join Anakin in death.

    I think she'd be much more useful as a berserker type character than as a dead type character, but then I also thought COrran should've died, and I also thought Ben shouldn't have been able to touch the Force. Guess my mind just doesn't work like the LFL people's minds do.
     
  21. JediJSolo

    JediJSolo Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    dark_jade, true, but Anakin didn?t die in the books leading up to SbS. He did die in SbS, and in that book, there is no indication that he has unfinished business.

    There simply isn?t enough evidence to suggest that he will be coming back. In fact, almost all of the evidence suggests that he will not.

    1. His body didn?t vanish.
    2. All other sources that cover SbS state that Anakin dies in that book.
    3. All of the prophecies about Anakin have come true, and are, therefore, no longer in effect.

    Is it possible for Anakin to came back? Yes, anything is possible in the Star Wars universe. However, it is supremely unlikely.

    Mstadge, why do you think that Ben shouldn?t have been able to touch the Force before he was born? Jacen, Jaina, and Anakin all did. Or were you referring to him never being able to touch the Force?
     
  22. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    Lord Vader's body didn't vanish and he came back as a spirit. I'm not saying Anakin will, but I'm just letting you know you're wrong on one point.
     
  23. darthparth

    darthparth Jedi Youngling star 3

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    Vader's body DID vanish. Check LFL - they said so.
     
  24. Sith-Pirate

    Sith-Pirate Jedi Padawan star 4

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    I learn somthing new every day.
     
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