Speculation Will (Insert Character Name Here) Be in Episode VII?

We will probably see his son, but much older.

 

Not directly, but you are missing my point. When the New Jedi Order was concieved of it was decided to kill a character from the films in order to create a sense of uncertainty. The NJO authors initially wanted to kill Luke, and were told no, so they offed Chewie instead, on the understanding that that there would be no reset button. Its also important to remember that the films, the TV show and the EU are actually woven together fairly seamlessly.

 

There are over a hundred major novels in the EU. I know because I've read most of them. You're just going to toss, what, 40,000 pages of material?

I know that not everybody likes the Expanded Universe, its WAY too big to just toss.

 

They need to stay with canon on this. Chewie is dead. They need to kill off Luke, Leia, and Han in Ep 7 and carry on with Ben and Jaina and the Lost Tribe of the Sith.

 

It's the EU's responsibility to fall in line with the movies, not the other way around.

 

Let's be clear: 'Canon' only applies to what is seen in the films. Extended Universe - EU (books, comics, tv) are not Canon, and can (and have been and will be) altered or disregarded entirely if it contradicts what is (will be) in the films.

 

Last time he was killed....died a hero...via a moon.

Of course Mickey Mouse can just say that never happened.

 

Actually the EU is canon (that's why its called T-CANON, or C-CANON) if it doesn't contradict the films, but once it does, said material ceases to become canon. So if this episode 7 contradicts the post-ROTJ EU, then that EU ceases to be canon, because Episode 7 is G-canon which is higher then C-canon.

EU is canon...just a lower canon that can also become non-canon, unlike the films.

For example, TCW is canon, even though its not G-canon, but T-canon. It still happened between Episode 2 and 3.

 

Watch them.

 

The first film in the trilogy is three years away, so we'll see, but the difference between fiction and reality is that fiction has to make sense and there is no logical way to undo Chewie's death.

 

Comparable page counts didn't stop DC Entertainment.

 

Chewie should be in it.

 

He is dead son.....accept that.

 

That's different. DC pushed the button on its entire universe. That's not what's happening here. The ST has to gell with six previous films, a TV show and tens of thousands of pages of printed material.

 

lol

 

Welcome to Star Wars.

 

They live 600 or so. Chewie was only 225.

 

the star wars films have a much broader audience than the novels. the writer(s) of the new films shouldn't have to conform to "40,000 pages of eu", mostly written by hacks. it's basically canonized fan fiction. whoever they hire to write the next film probably won't even know that chewbacca was killed by a moon or whatever. i mean i've been a star wars fan for 35 years and i didn't know that.

 

I am not saying that they will conform rigidly to the EU, to the point where the new films are just direct adaptations of EU material, but others in this discussion are acting like putting Chewie in the ST is no big deal. I think they are forgetting that some events in the EU, like Chewie's death are fixed points and cannot be undone, and I think we all need to accept and respect that.

 

EU is fine, but it isn't canon. Only the movies are cannon. It can be contradicted anywhere for the most part. Don't expect the ST to be based on EU material at all, and it may contradict it in many places. They may use EU material for inspiration, but not as something to conform to.

 

To most people it wouldn't be a big deal, because they either don't know or don't care that Chewy died in the EU. These movies need to maintain continuity with the other movies and that's it. If the movies contradict the EU or ignore it completely then the fans will just have to deal with it or bitch endlessly like they always do, but the fact remains that the filmmakers aren't beholden to the work of any authors other than George Lucas, nor should they be IMO.

 

Without these "hack" writers, the EU (any star wars material that isn't the films) would not exist, and therefore the star wars galaxy would become more stale. Because of these "hack" writers, star wars was able to grow and gain fans, even between the OT and PT years.

You may not like this, but the star wars universe is much larger then just the 6 films. Most of the info i know of the GFFA actually comes from some EU sources.

And whats with this either or mentality? You know, since the GFFA is so vast, with so much histroy, is is possible to write and do an amazing new star wars film, without contradicting EU sources. And it can even be a fresh/original story.

And they have people in charge of the canon levels, and what is and isn't canon in Lucasfilm, so disney can use them, to make sure that this new film does not contradict previous canon (and yes EU that isn't N-canon, and does not contradict G-canon is canon).

 

Yes, the EU is Canon.

• G-canon is George Lucas Canon; the six Episodes and any statements by George Lucas (including unpublished production notes from him or his production department that are never seen by the public). Elements originating with Lucas in the movie novelizations, reference books, and other sources are also G-canon, though anything created by the authors of those sources is C-canon. When the matter of changesbetween movie versions arises, the most recently released editions are deemed superior to older ones, as they correct mistakes, improve consistency between the two trilogies, and express Lucas's current vision of the Star Wars universe most closely. The deleted scenes included on the DVDs are also considered G-canon (when they're not in conflict with the movie).[1]
• T-canon,[2] or Television Canon[3], refers to the canon level comprising the feature film Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the two television shows Star Wars: The Clone Wars and the Star Wars live-action TV series.[4][5] It was devised recently in order to define a status above the C-Level canon, as confirmed by Chee[6].

• C-canon is Continuity Canon, consisting of all recent works (and many older works) released under the name of Star Wars: books, comics, games, cartoons, non-theatrical films, and more. Games are a special case, as generally only the stories are C-canon, while things like stats and gameplay may not be;[7] they also offer non-canonical options to the player, such as choosing female gender for a canonically male character. C-canon elements have been known to appear in the movies, thus making them G-canon; examples include the name "Coruscant," swoop bikes, Quinlan Vos, Aayla Secura, YT-2400 freighters and Action VI transports.

• S-canon is Secondary Canon; the materials are available to be used or ignored as needed by current authors. This includes mostly older works, such as much of the Marvel Star Wars comics, that predate a consistent effort to maintain continuity; it also contains certain elements of a few otherwise N-canon stories, and other things that "may not fit just right." Many formerly S-canon elements have been elevated to C-canon through their inclusion in more recent works by continuity-minded authors, while many other older works (such as The Han Solo Adventures) were accounted for in continuity from the start despite their age, and thus were always C-canon.

• N is Non-Canon. What-if stories (such as stories published under the Infinities label) and anything else directly and irreconcilably contradicted by higher canon ends up here. N is the only level that is not considered canon by Lucasfilm. Information cut from canon, deleted scenes, or from canceled Star Wars works falls into this category as well, unless another canonical work references it and it is declared canon.

 

What the frak?

Of course EU is canon. Yes its a lower canon then G-canon, yes if it contradicts with a G-canon source (any of the films) said material will become non-canon.

But just because its not as high of a canon as the films, doesn't mean it isn't canon at all.

Lower Canon doesn't always equal non-canon.

And remember, Lucas allowed the creation of the EU, and is the reason why the Canon levels exist anyways (if he only considered his stories the one true canon, then there would be no reason for him to even allow/create the canon system for lucasfilm). If the EU was NOT canon in any form, and just a bunch of fan fic, then there is no reason to create a canon system, nor is there a reason for Lucas to tell EU authors to not write prequel era stories when he began to write the prequel trilogy, since it wouldn't have mattered since the EU would all be just fan fic anyways.



"After Star Wars was released, it became apparent that my story—however many films it took to tell—was only one of thousands that could be told about the characters who inhabit its galaxy. But these were not stories that I was destined to tell. Instead, they would spring from the imagination of other writers, inspired by the glimpse of a galaxy that Star Wars provided. Today, it is an amazing, if unexpected, legacy of Star Wars that so many gifted writers are contributing new stories to the Saga."
―George Lucas, from the introduction of Splinter of the Mind's Eye, 1996.

There is a reason why its called the EXPANDED universe. Because it EXPANDED on the already existing universe, the one Lucas showed in the films.

 

He had a frickin moon fall on his head. Wookies are strong, but not that strong. Also, Lucas approved his death, so no, he is gone. I could see his son Lowbacca though.