Very interesting discussion, here are some thoughts. As far as R2D2 and C3PO, they are the characters through which you see the story. He took this from Hidden Fortress by Kurosawa and it's a storytelling device. A good example is Amadeus which you see the story through Salieri's eyes. As far as the SW movies in general, to me they are actually about the story and not much the characters with the exception of the main hero. Looks did take a lot from Campbell's theories and I see it as in essenece a mythic story of good vs evil and following the hero on the key quests. The OT was great at that, and the prequels still preserve it but probably not as effectively. I'm guessing that Lucas has lost some of his edge, after all there is that whole Greedo shoots first sanitizing for our protection, much like the gun removal from ET. One thing I disagree is that SW is about politics of greed and control. It's much more about humanity and individuality against oppression, indiference and machinery which is the same basic premise of THX-1138 (didn't Lucas explain this in the in a documenatry or interview?). The greed stuff (say the Trade Federation) is much more of the decoration for the main ideas so there is some stuff that can be interpreted that way. As far as Boba Fett I do agree. It seems to me more of a reaction to fan expectation and the Jar Jar backlash than anything else. It was interesting to see, but in the big picture of the OT he was a very minor character. And then you have a lot of fans here and critics saying that say the political stuff in the Senate was boring and wanted more action, and then they get more action and complain there is not story and overuse of CG. But I digress. I do agree with jp-30 that not all characters in a movie should advance the plot. Some just serve to add "flavor" to the movie or sidenotes to the story. I also agree that not all characters should pull in the audience emotionally, at least not in the traditional senese of regular movie goers who need to like the good guy and damsel in distress, etc. There should always be connections but not all have to be goody goody or positive. See Seven or Fight Club or Alien 3 (hmmm, geez all Fincher movies ;-). Heck most characters (at least the 2 main ones) in Insomnia were not that likeable. Cinematic failure, very interesting point MikeyKnew. It's certainly a bit ambiguos and everyone will have a different benchmark. I do agree apartially that Lucas filmaking now with the prequels have a bit more flaws storywise. They are some of the best pieces of entertainment though and you can see many good points and a potentially greater story underneath. But the OT I certainly qualify it as great filmaking, along with many other classics out there. It was really somethnig that wasn't accomplished before and it took classic themes and retold them in a very interesting manner Enough ranting!!!