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ST Will Rey be more powerful than Luke?

Discussion in 'Sequel Trilogy' started by darthOB1, Feb 12, 2016.

  1. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    maybe, however - possible
     
  2. Pluvial

    Pluvial Jedi Knight star 2

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    Explicit comments from George Lucas reveal Luke, Leia, and Anakin all have the same potential. Aside from George Lucas himself, the movies clearly portray the Skywalker lineage as incredibly special. Sidious in his final confrontation with Yoda says Anakin will become more powerful than any of them.

    Anakin did lose to Count Dooku and Obi Wan. But, these are both very powerful force users with far more experience and training than him. Given time, Anakin would have surpassed them. He did in Count Dooku's case, actually.

    Rey could have more potential than Luke, or Anakin. I think that is the most straightforward way to explain what she did in TFA.
     
  3. kip73

    kip73 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    It's hard to say, since we don't know who she's really related to, nor why she knows what she already knows. The path of least resistance way of thinking, is that she's a Skywalker, in which case sure why not.

    Even if she's not a Skywalker, she might end up being more powerful than Luke.

    Like everyone else here, I do hate not knowing though lol
     
  4. Jedi Master Scorpio

    Jedi Master Scorpio Star Wars Television star 5 Staff Member Manager

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    Interesting possibility. Yeah I think it could be very possible, especially if it turns out that Rey is indeed Luke's daughter and that her mom is also a force sensitive being as well.
     
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  5. MotherNature's SilverSeed

    MotherNature's SilverSeed Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Isn't she already more powerful than Luke?




    (apologies if somebody already said this.)
     
  6. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    yes I agree and we never saw a kid from 2 force sensitive parents yet and this might explain why she learns so fast. She might me more powerful, but maybe Luke feared she would become too powerful and therefore dangerous. Could this be the reason why she was abandoned? Or her force sensitive mother never told Luke she is pregnant, because Luke did fear to have a kid with his backstory. [face_thinking]
     
  7. Darkspellmaster

    Darkspellmaster Jedi Master star 4

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    Something to consider as well, can it be that her power could be strong but different? Like Luke is strong and powerful and his skilled in X, and Rey has a predispostion to Y? Of note, and this plays into two FS parents, Ben Skywalker in the EU was actually pretty fast at learning and picking up force things, it's one of the reasons why he was able to master things due to his mom, Mara, being also a really strong Jedi.
     
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  8. Darth Smurf

    Darth Smurf Small, but Lethal star 6

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    Be careful - some people here might consider this as blasphemy
     
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  9. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    While I don't disagree with this statement, and think Rey might still be a Skywalker, just not how everyone believes, the GFFA is no longer GLs baby. Micky mouse can take this in any direction they want. I am certain they already know that course and it's already set in stone.
     
  10. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    what do you expect? Anakin had another sibling or Rey is Anakin incarnated or a clone? o_O
     
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  11. JediKnightYJK

    JediKnightYJK Jedi Knight star 2

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    If that is the case they should of depict her like Bourne Identity... Every time she uses a force power she should been like "Huuu??? What??? How could I do this???". You know that would of made the movie much more interesting I think....
     
  12. Ghost Ryder

    Ghost Ryder Jedi Master star 4

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    Basically this. I prefer looking at power levels from a distance, and distinguishing characters by presence and personality, e.g. Dooku and Yoda, Anakin and Obi-Wan. So I think Rey will be powerful, but Luke will still stand out in his own right.
     
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  13. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Lol well not sure I want to get into it here. But neither. Let's just say by the end of the trilogy there will be a full circle ;)
     
  14. Forceuser707

    Forceuser707 Jedi Knight star 4

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    There is only one way the character Rey can remain relevant in this saga and that's not by her following any established story arc or by her being imbued with any kind of exclusive potential.

    If the writers know what they are doing the next couple of movies will surprise a lot of people.
     
  15. JediKnightYJK

    JediKnightYJK Jedi Knight star 2

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    What do you mean? Like she already knew everything about the force but pretend to not know it?
     
  16. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    So how can she be a Skywalker then as you claimed and it still be a surprise? [face_dunno]
     
  17. Purple Ren

    Purple Ren Jedi Knight star 3

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    If Rey is somehow more powerful than Luke, there better be a good storyline reason why and not just because KK wanted Rey to be the strongest as an eff you to GL and his Skywalkers (or for other reasons that don't need to be discussed.)

    Luke's grandfather is the force itself, that's got to count for something. If Rey is stronger, she had better be a Skywalker herself. (And even then, it's suspect)
     
  18. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    While not entirely spilling the beans on my theory, the events the events in TFA mirroring ANH are done so for a reason. By the end of IX we will be taken full circle back to TPM. I am going to leave it at that
     
  19. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    so you mean Rey is the real chosen one and Anakin was someone created by a dark sider (Plagueis)? This would make Luke as the real tragic hero. o_O
     
  20. DARTH_BELO

    DARTH_BELO Force Ghost star 5

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    I'm mainly just referring to what we've seen Luke (as well as Anakin and Rey) actually DO in the episodes. I'll be the first to acknowledge he may have increased greatly in power between ROTJ and TFA, sure. But we still haven't ever SEEN that. We've seen a very powerful Anakin, we've seen Rey, who was able to do (presumably without training) things it took Luke 3 years to be able to accomplish, but still haven't seen anything more than that from Luke. Basically, we've seen Rey do over the course of one single episode what it took Luke an entire trilogy to master. To me that seems like Rey has some mad potential-yes, perhaps even more than Luke did. Now, I'll admit it's possible Rey might have had some previous training, before she was left on Jakku, that she's subconsciously drawing from, but we can't confirm that.

    I'm simply comaparing what we've seen on screen thus far. If Rey did NOT have any prior training, and after all she was able to do within just this one episode, I'd expect she would be very, very powerful in the Force by Episode IX, or whatever later time we see her having been trained. Possibly even more powerful than Luke, when all is said and done. That's All I'm really saying.
     
  21. dragonchic

    dragonchic Jedi Master star 3

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    This is how I prefer to look at things as well. It's more interesting than discussing absolute power levels and allows characters to contribute in different ways to battles/missions even if they're equally powerful overall or one is generally less powerful than the other. Luke and Mara themselves were a good example of this - Luke was the stronger Force user but would often still rely on Mara's better-developed danger sense and precision lightsaber skills.

    I don't know which direction the writers might go in terms of relative strengths for Luke and Rey, but I think it'd be cool to find out that Leia is particularly adept at mental Force abilities, given that she resisted Vader's interrogation in ANH and the few times we've seen her explicitly use the Force have involved being able to sense others.
     
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  22. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Lol man on man I'm going to have to spill it all; someday. Even though I've stated it in another thread ;). But no Rey would be the tragic heroin in that she will have to do something to protect someone that has great consequences in the universe and for herself, a self sacrifice if you will.
     
  23. nightangel

    nightangel Force Ghost star 6

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    still don't get it who she is is going to protect? Kylo, Leia... [face_dunno]
     
  24. darthOB1

    darthOB1 Force Ghost star 5

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    Neither. Nor Luke. It's pretty far out there. Still waiting for appropriate time and valuable evidence before I unleash it. But if it happens it cant be known by audience until the end of IX. I suspect there will be hints in VIII but the full reveal won't happen until then.
     
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  25. kip73

    kip73 Jedi Grand Master star 4

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    Nothing is far out there, man. Go ahead and share. Speculation is cool.
     
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