Speculation Will the Empire still exist in some form in the new trilogy? I wonder...

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by TheLateAdmiralPiett, Oct 31, 2012.

  1. TheLateAdmiralPiett Force Ghost

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    Disregarding the EU's take on the Empire, as this new trilogy will likely disregard most EU things, will the Empire be mentioned, or shown to be a marginalized version of its former self, allowed by the Alliance/new government to continue to exist?

    I mean, I know Return Of The Jedi makes it clear in the celebration around the galaxy that the Empire has lost and the war is over, but I find it hard to believe that ALL vestiges of the Empire would vanish, even 20 or so years later.
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  3. lavjoricso Force Ghost

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    I like the idea of the Empire still being around but going off the montage at the end of Jedi, it looks like the Empire just immediately fell apart with the loss of the Emperor.
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  4. TheAvengerButton Jedi Grand Master

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    I am growing very fond of the idea that the EU may be thrown out (even though that isn't confirmed at this point). I only liked very little of it to begin with, but I think the prospect of films taking place after the events of Return of the Jedi to be fascinating, especially with Lucas being creative consultant and possibly creating the entire story.
  5. Ghost Chosen One

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    If they go by the EU, we may see Han and Leia's daughter become the new Empress, and her son a light-side Jedi Emperor.

    Which would be a lot like Lucas's original rough drafts for ANH.
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  6. KED12345 Force Ghost

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    The ENTIRE Empire wouldn't die the moment the Emperor died. That's just silly. Guess is the Imperial Remnant will be a big threat.
  7. Adrian the Cool Jedi Master

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    You mean Jaina and Jacen Solo becoming rulers of the entire galaxy? This already happened in my personol canon/fanon. If it will get into the new official canon, too, then I'll become a Jediist!

    But Return of the Jedi just suggests this. I think some parts of the Post-Endor Expanded Universe are silly, like Palpatine coming back in a clone body and the Empire building one superweapon after another.
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  8. TheVortex3 Jedi Master

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    I think that there will still be some remnants of the empire but it all depends on how long after rotj episode 7 takes place.
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  9. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    It might be cool if the Empire and the Republic had to unite to face some new threat. Maybe the Empire didnt just build the DS's to destroy the rebellion but also as a defensive weapon.
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  11. Ghost Chosen One

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    Well, Jaina's son, and then Jaina's grandson "Roan Fel," and then Jaina's great-granddaughter "Marasiah Fel."


    Jaina Solo Fel (Jedi Master) and her husband Jag Fel (future Emperor, appointed to rule the Empire by Luke Skywalker):
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    Roan Fel (the third Fel Emperor, Jaina's grandson, a fully-trained Imperial Jedi):
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    Yuuzhan Vong?
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  12. Lord Tuvitor Force Ghost

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  13. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    No but you have to have a threat bigger than the last one: the sith. The only type of enemy is one deadlier: either a borg-type Vong enemy or a more subversive agent of chaos.

    edit:

    what if the empire sued for peace after the debacle at Endor? They sue for peace, a treaty is signed, and the Empire starts training their own force users.
    Kinda reminds me of Babylon 5 universe Psy corps.
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  14. Lord Tuvitor Force Ghost

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    Or the Imperial Knights from Legacy
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  15. Ghost Chosen One

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    Man, you need to get caught up on the EU :p
  16. The Loyal Imperial Manager Emeritus

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    Or perhaps the Jedi themselves.
  17. JoinTheSchwarz Comms Admin & Community Manager

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    Unlikely. The special edition additions to ROTJ seem pretty definitive. Plus it would just be rehashing old material.
  18. ShaneP Ex-Mod Officio

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    I like your icon idea better. :p
  19. Coruscant Force Ghost

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    I just want to see some star destroyers, dammit. And I'm not talking about those wimpy prototypes from the Clone Wars.
  20. darth_mccartney Force Ghost

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    I hope we don't see him. Dude be dead! lol

    And yeah, we need to see star destroyers. They cant have all been scrapped once the Empire went belly up!
  21. Legacy Jedi Endordude Jedi Grand Master

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    I hope they exist, but i don't want them to be a big threat at first. I'd like to see the Imperial Knights. If they bring in the IK i'm going to Geek out! I also hope Jag and Jania are in it!
  22. Rodimus1980 Jedi Grand Master

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    Even if there isn't any Empire in the movie, the fact that it will be part of the current Episodes demands that no matter how long Episode VII takes place after "Return of the Jedi", the audience must be told what has transpired between the movies and I see a explanation on what happened to the Empire after the destruction of the Death Star II being paramount.
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  23. JediChris99 Jedi Padawan

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    I may be in the minority on this, but I always saw the Republic/Empire as being the same entity. Especially after seeing the prequels. The Empire didn't "take over" the Republic. In reality, the Republic evolved into the Empire. The Alliance was called: The Alliance to Restore the Republic. I have no idea how the political transition happened after Jedi. It's not like the Emperor had a son to assume command or a Vice-Emperor. I would speculate (I'm assuming that Lucas is not using the Expanded Universe stories as the basis for what happened post-Jedi and that he has his own ideas for how the aftermath went down) that the Senate was re-established (it still existed at the time of A New Hope) and assumed political control of the galaxy. I would imagine at that time the military either accepted this new reality and fell under the command of the new political entity, or resisted causing conflict to continue for a period after the Battle of Endor. However, I doubt we'll see any of this on the screen. The new films (if they are to feature the original characters) will have to be set 30 years later. I doubt that Episode 7 will deal with any lingering issues left over from Jedi - the time frame is far too long for that to be viable. I struggle with a concept of "Luke and Leia struggle to rebuild the Republic and the Jedi - after all, it's going to be 30 years later. By this point the "struggle" would be over. Either they would have rebuilt or they didn't. The bottom line: I don't see a viable story that deals with some sort of remanent of The Empire 30 years later.
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  24. JediChris99 Jedi Padawan

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    Great idea. They could handle that with a montage similar to the beginning of the Lord of the Rings when the back story of the Ring and Sauron and the last war were all explained.
  25. Rodimus1980 Jedi Grand Master

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    Exactly. Nothing says Star Wars can't have opening montages after the scroll. But there MUST be a scroll. No exceptions.
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