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Speculation Will the new trilogy try to match the tone of the OT or PT?

Discussion in 'Star Wars: Episode VII and Beyond (Archive)' started by Boba Frett, Nov 19, 2012.

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Will the new trilogy more closely match the Classic or Prequel trilogies, or have its own vibe?

  1. Prequel Trilogy

    9.5%
  2. Classic Trilogy

    28.6%
  3. Do its own thing

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  1. Little Mike

    Little Mike Jedi Youngling

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    Something in between, the sequel Trilogy should resolve the Star wars story overall, but not in the sort of 'happily ever after' way that Jedi did. Otherwise there's no point in doing it, the happy ending came in Ep6.

    I'd like it all to end in a very bittersweet way, kind of like Lord of the Rings, so that when its all over we all feel that we've been watching something truly epic that will never happen again.
     
  2. Mr. K

    Mr. K Moderator Emeritus star 5 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    The biggest difference, to me, in tone of the two trilogies is that the PT seemed heavy-handed with all of it's political manueverings and the like; whereas the OT was much more akin to an epic fairy tale with rescuing Princesses and staving off a brutal Empire and learning to harness incredible power from a mystic who lives in isolation and exile. Good stuff. The PT was more about the intrigue of corruption, and the path to one's destiny, and the whole operatic arc of Anakin's rise and fall.

    In the simplest terms, I found the OT much more entertaining. Maybe it's the nostalgia talking, but when I was a kid, we didn't give two hoots about playing Jedi Knights. We wanted to strap into an X-Wing and blow away TIE's.
     
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  3. d_arblay

    d_arblay Jedi Master star 4

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    I would say the PT is consistently classical and almost period-piece in its design and execution. I personally love this just as much as the more swashbuckling, Robin Hood/Errol Flynn, pirate-adventure-movie feel that features with much of the OT and ANH in particular. But I think it's wrong to categorize the OT as one distinct style. To me, ESB and ROTJ aren't really too far away from what we got with the PT, albeit with different characters and a hugely different set of arenas (indeed ESB probably did more to shape the Star Wars saga as it came to be). The one that still stands out the most is ANH. Star Wars could have been anything after that. If anything, the course it was on shifted irreversibly with ESB.

    When I think about distinct images that define what I love about the Star Wars saga, I often think of ones contained within the PT. Say what you want about acting, dialogue and whether or not they contradicted or spoiled the OT, they truly are beautiful movies. And while the action/adventure and more carefree tone of ANH and many parts of the rest of the OT is wonderful too, I wouldn't wish to trade in the scale, richness or tone of the PT to achieve that alone. A combination and evolution of styles with nods to all of the aspects we've seen before would be satisfying for me. Whether or not this can be achieved with JJ Abrams alone is questionable. Part of me is hoping for three directors (one for each movie) to help ensure this.
     
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  4. Visivious Drakarn

    Visivious Drakarn Jedi Master star 3

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    Although I'd like that PT tone - more serious, more epic with realistic, human characters with a hint of politics, it is quite clear that we'll get something different. It'll be most likely self-sustained trilogy with it's own and unique tone and thematic.
    I'll be good just if the main farmboy hero doesn't blow something up in the first movie.
     
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  5. d_arblay

    d_arblay Jedi Master star 4

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    "Every stanza is meant to rhyme" remember ;)
     
  6. anakinfansince1983

    anakinfansince1983 Nightsister of Four Realms star 10 Staff Member Manager

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    Voted "in between."

    I don't want a happily-ever-after fairy tale but I don't want a Murphy's Law film (I'm looking at you, ROTS) either.
     
  7. ezekiel22x

    ezekiel22x Force Ghost star 5

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    Entirely different. That way we wouldn't be getting an OT nostalgia-type trilogy.
     
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  8. Carbon1985

    Carbon1985 Jedi Knight star 3

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    Lucas said back in 1983 that the ST would be summed up as 'ethereal.' Now if they stick to that, I think it could have a deep message that sort of relates to all of us and how we deal with death (meaning Luke, Leia and Han). Now back in 1983, Lucas was probably thinking of the ST with Luke, Leia and Han still in their prime, so this will be more about the next generation, but I still think that the possible deaths of the OT big 3 will play a part in the moral message of the Trilogy.

    Overall, the ST will be more like OT as you will follow the good guys for 3 movies, and it wont be a trilogy about following a good guy gone bad to his destruction. But I really hope the ST sort of sums up the PT/OT when it is all said and done and we can look back at the 9 movies, and see the overall meaning they are all going to tell. I am very hopeful of this as even though I enjoy the PT/OT, I never liked that Lucas made the overall arc about the 'Tragedy of Darth Vader' as it is an overall story that just doesn't sit well with me since he is essentially a mass murderer.
     
  9. El Jedi Colombiano

    El Jedi Colombiano Force Ghost star 5

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    Something different.

    GL's early story treatments said that this trilogy would deal with Moral and Philosophical Problems. We need that.
     
  10. EHT

    EHT Manager Emeritus star 7 VIP - Former Mod/RSA

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    Please note: If this becomes an OT vs. PT thread, it will be locked.
     
  11. chris hayes

    chris hayes Jedi Master star 4

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    I would like the grey side , a bit of both OT & PT......but from the PT more of the Lightsabre duels & the Dark stuff not the fluffy stuff.......
     
  12. darklordoftech

    darklordoftech Force Ghost star 6

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    Like the PT, except the lightside wins (unless there's going to be an Episode X).
     
  13. Force Smuggler

    Force Smuggler Force Ghost star 7

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    I expect the ST to be different from the PT and OT though there will be certain elements from both I assume.
     
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  14. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    the trilogy should be like this:

    Luke goes to the outer-rim to "search himself" after the loss of Obi-Wan, Yoda and his dad, and comes across some wise mentor, who teaches him "to be more than just a Jedi, you must be something else entirely...a legend Mr Skywalker" Mentor turns out to be some deluded darksider who wants to liberate the galaxy from the evil empire and corruptible Republic


    the next ep will have Luke face a totally psychotic Sith lord, who just "does things" and "wants to see the galaxy burn", he would also blast off Han's face, and then Han will go all psycho too, and start killing everyone because the falcon told him to.

    the last ep will have Luke missing in action throughout half of the film, and is stuck in a darkside cave on Dagobah, after learning his greatest fear he returns to save the galaxy from the student of the deranged Mentor from the first film


    there you have it

    the white knight trilogy

     
  15. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Jedi Master star 5

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    Dark and ominous like the PT was in some of it's best moments at the end of AOTC and most of ROTS. I would like to see something past an episode IX and if the bad guys win out in the ST I think we'll get more films. Definitely do want there to be some nice correlation with the OT however.
     
  16. Luukeskywalker

    Luukeskywalker Force Ghost star 5

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    To a few of the people who dont want a happily ever after ending to the ST, I got some news for you. Its going to be. You dont end a 9 part epic fairytale on a downer or a empty feeling ending. Episode IX WILL end triumphantly with the Republic fully restored and the galaxy in a fully healthy state with the jedi as its guardians once more. Thats the only way it could and should end.
     
  17. Sistros

    Sistros Jedi Master star 6

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    GL's early story treatments said that this trilogy would deal with Moral and Philosophical Problems. We need that.
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    didn't we get all that in the other 6 films?

    not that I'm saying they shouldn't continue it, but it's hardly new.
     
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  18. EMPEROR_WINDU

    EMPEROR_WINDU Jedi Master star 5

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    That's only true if the Star Wars Saga is going to end at Episode IX.
     
  19. Corvax855

    Corvax855 Jedi Knight star 3

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    "If the first trilogy is social and political and talks about how society evolves," Lucas says, "Star Wars is more about personal growth and self-realisation, and the third deal with moral and philosophical problems. In Star Wars, there is a very clear line drawn between good and evil. Eventually you have to face the fact that good and evil aren't that clear-cut and the real issue is trying to understand the difference. The sequel is about Jedi knighthood, justice, confrontation, and passing on what you have learned."

    I'm willing to bet Lucas has kept with this vision for the ST. At least I hope he has.
     
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  20. WatTamborWoo

    WatTamborWoo Jedi Master star 3

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    I voted "something new". "Etherial" would be new. Just don't know what that would mean for SW.
     
  21. Carbon1985

    Carbon1985 Jedi Knight star 3

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    The ST needs to have an overall message after you watch them, or a deeper meaning. For me, the difference between SW movies and most blockbusters is that SW delves deeper then just action and effects. Each trilogy sort of has a defining message that speaks to the audience, and I hope the ST continues that. If it just ends up being another summer blockbuster with little substance, then I will be really disappointed.
     
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