ST Will the Republic blame Leia/Resistance for provoking the First Order?

Will the Republic blame Leia/Resistance for provoking the First Order?

Hux does give that as his reason for using the Starkiller against the Hosnia system, because so many Senators were not-so-secretly supporting the Resistance.


I'm sure what's left of the Republic's military will now go to war with the First Order... but they could also hunt down the Resistance at the same time.

 

It'd be kinda crazy if we got a Syrian Civil War type situation where the government is desperate to take down the terrorists but feels the need to take on their potentially allied rebel groups as well. I doubt it though. I suspect it'd be too topical. They seemed to go out of their way to avoid mentioning politics of any kind and I have the nagging and unpleasant suspicion that they're going to continue with that and just pretend that the Republic was wiped out in one shot when they should be showing us a genuine galactic war of conquest with the First Order reconquering Republic territory.

 

I don't even think the Republic exists anymore.

 

Well Leia definitely will blame herself. Probably.

 

Snoke can discredit Leia by revealing to the galaxy she's Darth Vader's daughter. The same with Luke.

 

no one would care and there would be no way to prove it. i doubt one of snoke's tactics is "spread gossip."

 

No one would care if the leader of the Resistance and the last Jedi are the children of Darth Vader, a Sith Lord and the Emperor's enforcer?

 

like i said, no one would believe it. the fs is more direct. like blowing up a solar system.

 

Birth certificate? Blood test? Recording of Luke and Leia's conversation on Endor?

 

it's not an issue. that's something people would do in real life not sw.

 

That would be interesting. Imagine if The Republic disbands the Resistance and has the leaders, including Leia, go on trial. Would be a very interesting conflict.

 

Question, Is the first order a continuation of the Empire or a completely different group? In TFA fin was not a clone but an individual taken from birth. This is not how the empire clone storm troopers were. Also, kylo ren wants to finish what vader started, didn't really understand his link to vader.

 

VERY interesting idea. But I agree that they probably won't give that to us.

 

According to recent rumors, the Resistance will still be separate from the Republic in Episode 8.

Could this be why?

 

Yep I think the first time we see Leia will be her meeting with Laure Dern. Dern will be bascially acting chancellor in the chaos.Dern will scold her for angering the FO. Leia will respond saying if the Republic had backed her there would be no crisis. Dern tells her she will take control of the resistance forces and put Leia in some kind of imprisonment. Dern will then meet with Poe, Finn and other resistance officers, telling her it is in the best interests of everyone to seek terms with the FO. Poe will refuse, saying that the FO are terroists only interested in the destruction of the republic and their interests, and asking for terms is the same as surrendering. The others agree with this. Dern threatens to throw them all in prison so they leave. Next scene involves them breaking out Leia in a nice little action scene. Leia tells them that the republic is no longer their ally and they must find a new ally so they turn to the criminal underworld led by King Prana.

 

I think it is the surviving govenors of the empire banded together, calling themselves the FO. They signed a peace treaty with the republic to stop the fighting. The treaty allowed them to hold onto the systems they still controlled so long as they restricted their soilders/weapons. The republic had to do the same. Then Snoke took command and started building up the army and weapons in secret. At some point Leia learned of this and asked the Republic to intervene. They refused to believe her without hard evidence so she set up the resistance to fight and discredit the FO.

 

Tonyg. Would love to hear from you about the historical similarities with the ST story. Has there been a situation where a group ignorned their goverment and took it upon themselves to fight a threat like the FO?

 

I am quite certain that the differences between Leia/ the Resistance and the New Republic forces (if they still exist) will be explored in 8. Though it may simply be an internal conflict/ philosophical difference within the Resistance, with the New Republic being gone.

 

It reminds me of the situation of IRA and Sinn Féin in Northern Ireland (not only of them, of course, but I think this is the most recent example). As you know, both movements wanted to remove Northern Ireland form UK, but Sinn Féin is a legal political party that try to negotiate and IRA is, i.e. was a military semi clandestine organization; they were convinced that the path of peace would be useless to succeed (if there are any Irish in this thread, they can explain it even better). The case of Northern Ireland was not the only one in the European history (for example) when there was 2 "parties" in one movement with the same goal: free the country (but one of them has always preference to fight and the other one to negotiate). The problem with Ep.7 for me is that the political issue is too unclear: who is the government really? Because someone mentioned the situation in Syria. For the territories that are under the control of the so called Islamic state, ISIS is the government, no matter that the rest of the world, including Syria itself, consider it as illegal, but this is point of view, remember ? So if they continue to play it safe in the sequels, we would never know who/what is the government and who/what is the opposition.

 

I don't think they'll blame Leia for provoking the first order. I personally think they will need the resistances help more than ever. Leia and other Resistance members have first-hand experience dealing with this kind of enemy. Not only with the time the FO has been fighting the Resistance, but also fighting the GE. Leia was on the ground fighting the GE she knows this kind of enemy. It would be foolish of the New Republic to be at odds with the Resistance especially after what happened to the Hosnian System.

 

Embarassingly I am Irish and you know more about the situation than I do!! In my opinion Sinn Fein were secretly funding the IRA similar to the republic and Gerry Adams was part of the IRA. In my view the resistance is a gureilla group fighting the FO. It is interesting that you referred to the IRA because in order for peace to happen in the North the IRA had to dissarm. So could you see an angle where Leia is branded a criminal by the republic [what is left of it?]

 

The only reason for that will be if the Republic could have some advantage of doing this and I don't see such. If this is the price for the Republic to negotiate a peace with a First Order, then it could be justified. But again, we don't know if they are in such negotiations or how exactly powerful is the First Order.