Discussion Will this movie ignore the prequels?

Well I was sort of joking. But for space soap opera, a lot of people on here are really concerned with realism. So I think some of them might actually like that bowel movement conversation.

If you gave some an option between a BM or the return of Vader or Sidious, I'm pretty sure they would choose the BM.

But seriously, I do think the more realistic style of the OT helps make space opera more believable. The problem comes when we disagree over what kind of real is realistic in space opera. You think the netherworld would be realistic; others don't. So I do think there is a tension between people that respect the world of the GFFA and those who want to make Star Wars more like our world. I'm with you on the dialogue part; the OT is much superior in that aspect.

 

It will ignore all six Star Wars films and turn out to be something else entirely. Overboard 2 maybe.

 

There may be some very brief passing references. But, I don't think they will have much if any relevance to the story.

 

It's called Episode VII isn't it?

 

What about revealing Star Wars to be part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (I hope this is on topic)

 

Like it or not, the prequels happened and I expect there to be references to it, even if it happens to be a miniscule amount.

 

I want to see an Eta-2 Interceptor or newer model in the ST.

 

An Eta-3 Interceptor?

 

Or 4 or 5 since it will be several decades later.

 

that works too

 

JJ Abrams sorta hinted on Howard Stern that he disliked the prequels and that this movie wont have much to do with them. Howard said SOMETHING like "it must suck having to follow-up those god-awful last three films" and JJ said SOMETHING like "well those were prequels that took place before the originals and ours takes place after. those are history. which is awesome."

 

I understand where you and others are coming from. But over the top is relative to the rules of the GFFA world. In the GFFA world, technology is like magic and the force can be used to sustain life, and maybe even create it (ROTS).

Is it necessarily bad storytelling? That's up for debate. Coming back to life is certainly a cliche, but sometimes cliches work just fine in movies. It depends on how they're executed. It's also subjective: I don't take the SW universe too seriously. That is, because I view it as space opera, fantasy/sci-fi, I actually wouldn't mind immortality or resurrection. It's sort of like saying there should be no war in a war movie, because that's cliche. Sure it's cliche, but it's also what makes the world the world. It's the world's furniture.

Having said that, I want to be clear that I'm arguing for the realism of these types of things in Star Wars. Not necessarily that I want them to happen. I just don't think they would be that bad if they did, depending upon their execution.

 

NO POOP JOKES!!! If I hear ickyickypoo or peeyoosa, there'll be hell to pay!

 

Ha ha lol. Any ship from the PT being in the background is fine by me.

 

That would be.....interesting

 

Thank you! You put it perfectly!

 

James Bond villains often reappear. Comic book villains often do. Great villains return, and it's a trope of space opera, fantasy, and the old serials.

But to respond to your point more directly. How does the return of Palpatine ruin the PT since he was alive and undefeated in those films? As well as the first two films of the OT. He wasn't defeated in any of those 5 films.

He was apparently defeated in episode six. Would his return in the next episode or two ruin episode six? What else happened in six? The Empire was defeated. His return wouldn't necessarily delete that achievement. Luke helped to redeem Vader. Did Vader redeem himself by killing Palaptine, or by trying to kill him? He redeemed himself by becoming good again and helping to destroy the empire. Even with Palpatine's return, none of those things would be changed.

I don't see how the return of the main villain would ruin anything. Ruin what? If anything, you can make a strong argument that having a different main villain than the first six episodes is bad storytelling. It's asymmetrical. Incoherent. Possibly non-organic.

 

Vader redeemed himself by sacrificing himself to save another.

 

Actually Vader didn't sacrifice himself, Anakin did

 

I guess so.

 

I'm not an advocate of Anakin coming back in any form. Well, maybe force ghost.

I do advocate some new version of the Vader look.

 

Would you like to see Palpatine/Sidious back? It would be interesting to sit down and write all the pros and cons down to such a question. I'm sure our current writers have already done some such exercise to answer this question.